Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[bustamente]

This team doesn't have much in the cupboard for a top pair D man that this team desperately needs for the playoffs, so a RD with term and fits into the Jets cap to play with Joshua is probably the greatest need.

 

[Adam da bomb]

This team doesn't have much in the cupboard for a top pair D man that this team desperately needs for the playoffs, so a RD with term and fits into the Jets cap to play with Joshua is probably the greatest need.

Don’t think we have pieces to get one if salmon can’t.

 

[voyageur]

I hope Minny trades Rossi for Nelson. They lose that one big time. Then I hope they sign him for too much, too long.

Granlund would be my next want.

I don't know about Cozens. His production falling year over year is more than a one off. With his contract, I don't know if there is any bidding war there.

I don't have any real interest in the rest.

I still prefer getting a solution to 1RD, with term. Use whatever trade chips we have there.

I can't comment on Nelson this year, because I haven't seen him play. But he followed up back to back conference final appearances in bubble years with 3 30 goal seasons. Those guys aren't all over the market. Maybe Rossi is a 30 goal scorer this year, but with that forward group all the skill guys are smaller players, none are afraid to attack the net, but they are still guys that can get worn down physically. Maybe we aren't that different, except Vilardi is a force and Scheif is a beast and a better offensive player than Eriksson-Ek will ever be.

The 1RD debate is a valid argument.

Just remains to be seen if there is any willingness to break up Morrissey-De Melo, since they are the strongest pairing for the Jets in their current winning ways. Pionk has dropped quite a bit in production and shots against with Fleury, who is probably still a #7 at the end of the day. Miller has gone the furthest of all the Jets d-men in the playoffs, to the Stanley Cup, so his experience in a playoff battle probably has some value, and he may just be getting managed to be healthy for the playoffs.

I still think there is time to see Lundmark in a depth role, who might turn out to be a decent PKer, first pass defensemen who can join the rush. Salomonsson I hope joins the team for the playoffs, even if he doesn't play, just to be a part of the experience.

I don't have a solid opinion on Stanley/Heinola/Fleury going down the left side. I think each one of them is getting experience this year, and none have established themselves as the clear front runner. But give Chevy credit he did keep some depth on defense, in spite of losing Dillon and Schmidt. Even if it is inexperienced depth.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

This team doesn't have much in the cupboard for a top pair D man that this team desperately needs for the playoffs, so a RD with term and fits into the Jets cap to play with Joshua is probably the greatest need.

Severson.

 

[bustamente]

Severson.

NTC, has term but ticket is to big for my liking

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

NTC, has term but ticket is to big for my liking

Good points.

 

[Jets]

Wonder what the ask for Kreider is? Stats look pretty bad this year but he's not a pure rental either. Would probably fit nicely with Namestnikov and Perfetti to add a big body scorer on the other wing.

Then you'd still have a potential Ehlers-Granlund-Iafallo line as well if Chevy is going all in again.

 

[Cotton Eye Joe]

Wonder what the ask for Kreider is? Stats look pretty bad this year but he's not a pure rental either. Would probably fit nicely with Namestnikov and Perfetti to add a big body scorer on the other wing.

Then you'd still have a potential Ehlers-Granlund-Iafallo line as well if Chevy is going all in again.

Kreider's quite the puck hog this year.
30 games played. 1 assist.

 

[Bender Duster]

Kreider's quite the puck hog this year.
30 games played. 1 assist.

Tenacious in front of the net and really good at jumping out of swimming pools…but 0 hockey IQ.

 

[BobTheSolarsystem]

Kreider's quite the puck hog this year.
30 games played. 1 assist.

I think its mostly that hes bumper on pp

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I can't comment on Nelson this year, because I haven't seen him play. But he followed up back to back conference final appearances in bubble years with 3 30 goal seasons. Those guys aren't all over the market. Maybe Rossi is a 30 goal scorer this year, but with that forward group all the skill guys are smaller players, none are afraid to attack the net, but they are still guys that can get worn down physically. Maybe we aren't that different, except Vilardi is a force and Scheif is a beast and a better offensive player than Eriksson-Ek will ever be.

The 1RD debate is a valid argument.

Just remains to be seen if there is any willingness to break up Morrissey-De Melo, since they are the strongest pairing for the Jets in their current winning ways. Pionk has dropped quite a bit in production and shots against with Fleury, who is probably still a #7 at the end of the day. Miller has gone the furthest of all the Jets d-men in the playoffs, to the Stanley Cup, so his experience in a playoff battle probably has some value, and he may just be getting managed to be healthy for the playoffs.

I still think there is time to see Lundmark in a depth role, who might turn out to be a decent PKer, first pass defensemen who can join the rush. Salomonsson I hope joins the team for the playoffs, even if he doesn't play, just to be a part of the experience.

I don't have a solid opinion on Stanley/Heinola/Fleury going down the left side. I think each one of them is getting experience this year, and none have established themselves as the clear front runner. But give Chevy credit he did keep some depth on defense, in spite of losing Dillon and Schmidt. Even if it is inexperienced depth.

Nelson is 33. Rossi is 23. Nelson might have 1-2 more decent years in him, if he's lucky. Rossi has 10 years to get to that position. Rossi is outproducing Nelson already.

Hard to say where a new top 4 RHD would play to start. Depends on how the other 2 are going at the time. There are signs of DeMelo getting back to normal but he is not quite there yet. Pionk seems to be a good fit with Samberg. He probably gets better when Snerg comes back. Meantime, Fleury is doing a pretty good job filling in.

I think Fleury has shown himself to be clearly better than Stan but he doesn't play a very physical game and he is not a fighter. Arniel seems to want that.

 

[Adam da bomb]

Nelson is 33. Rossi is 23. Nelson might have 1-2 more decent years in him, if he's lucky. Rossi has 10 years to get to that position. Rossi is outproducing Nelson already.

Hard to say where a new top 4 RHD would play to start. Depends on how the other 2 are going at the time. There are signs of DeMelo getting back to normal but he is not quite there yet. Pionk seems to be a good fit with Samberg. He probably gets better when Snerg comes back. Meantime, Fleury is doing a pretty good job filling in.

I think Fleury has shown himself to be clearly better than Stan but he doesn't play a very physical game and he is not a fighter. Arniel seems to want that.

Also clearly better than Heinola.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Also clearly better than Heinola.

I'm not nearly ready to decide on Heinola yet. If Fleury is a 7 then Stan is an 8. Maybe Fleury is a 6 and Stan a 7. Either way, Heinola is still an unknown quantity.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

NTC, has term but ticket is to big for my liking

He might waive for a contender. I could live with the AAV. But he is 30 with 7 seasons to go. I suppose he would be one of those contracts you know is going to age badly but you swallow it bc you are in win now mode.

That said, I really don't know him well enough to have a solid opinion of his worth. Has good size, good skating, good scoring. How's his D?

 

[bustamente]

He might waive for a contender. I could live with the AAV. But he is 30 with 7 seasons to go. I suppose he would be one of those contracts you know is going to age badly but you swallow it bc you are in win now mode.

That said, I really don't know him well enough to have a solid opinion of his worth. Has good size, good skating, good scoring. How's his D?

I don't think he is the player the Jets are looking to pair up with Joshua, more of a second pairing. Short term maybe DeMelo can get back on tract, long term they need to find someone.

 

[Jet]

I'd hold onto Yager and Salmon...anyone else would be available from the minors.
JMo, Samberg, Volare, 55, 81 and Perfetti are also off the table.

Pionk and Nino for Cozens at 1m retained.

That's not a deal that makes the Jets more playoff ready.

If the Jets were rebuilding I'd say yes but Pionk has been our second best defenseman and has proven playoff ability, and Nino is a core piece of perhaps the best 3rd line in hockey.

I don't think the Jets and Buffalo make good trading partners as what the Sabres need the Jets won't give up at this point in our contending window.

 

[Weezeric]

I wonder if the Rangers would part with Trochek.

 

[Adam da bomb]

I'm not nearly ready to decide on Heinola yet. If Fleury is a 7 then Stan is an 8. Maybe Fleury is a 6 and Stan a 7. Either way, Heinola is still an unknown quantity.

And I’d rather take a known factor over an unknown.

 

[voyageur]

I wonder if the Rangers would part with Trochek.

He's got a full NTC I believe, like Zibanajed, so the Rangers are hooked to their top 2 centers, unless the situation gets so bad that they want to be traded out of New York.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

And I’d rather take a known factor over an unknown.

Known bad over might be good, or bad?

How about we find out what we have before making any decision?

 

[Adam da bomb]

Known bad over might be good, or bad?

How about we find out what we have before making any decision?

If u are saying Stan is known bad I can agree, if you are saying fleury is bad and Heinola’s likelihood of passing that is high and is potential is much higher I’d question that.

 

[DRW204]

I wonder if the Rangers would part with Trochek.

who do you like better between him or jared mccann

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

If u are saying Stan is known bad I can agree, if you are saying fleury is bad and Heinola’s likelihood of passing that is high and is potential is much higher I’d question that.

I'm not saying Fleury is bad. I'm saying he is better than Stan except for physical aggressiveness. He is not a top 4 Dman. That doesn't make him 'bad'. My impression of him on the 3rd pair was that he was good in that position. Maybe I should say that he is less bad than Stan.

Heinola is unknown. His potential is higher than either of the other 2. But the likelihood of him passing them is unknown.

Confidence is a large part of playing hockey at the highest levels. He needs to get comfortable and start playing with more confidence before we will know what he can do. He seems to be getting better each game. Lets stick with it.

Everyone talks about his offence, his first pass, his zone exits, etc. IIRC he was actually pretty good defensively in the AHL, using good skating and smarts to be effective against bigger men. I think he needs to be more than just an offensive Dman to succeed in the NHL. So far, I haven't seen enough of either offence or defence from him. But I have seen flashes. He hasn't failed yet. Give him a little rope.

 

[fmrdh]

Rumour that Kreider nixed a trade to Vancouver so there is no way he would come here.

Jokiharju is a young-ish RHD without trade protection who would probably come at a low price from a team who needs to make changes.

Nyquist? Novak? Zucker?

 

[DRW204]

I'm not saying Fleury is bad. I'm saying he is better than Stan except for physical aggressiveness. He is not a top 4 Dman. That doesn't make him 'bad'. My impression of him on the 3rd pair was that he was good in that position. Maybe I should say that he is less bad than Stan.

Heinola is unknown. His potential is higher than either of the other 2. But the likelihood of him passing them is unknown.

Confidence is a large part of playing hockey at the highest levels. He needs to get comfortable and start playing with more confidence before we will know what he can do. He seems to be getting better each game. Lets stick with it.

Everyone talks about his offence, his first pass, his zone exits, etc. IIRC he was actually pretty good defensively in the AHL, using good skating and smarts to be effective against bigger men. I think he needs to be more than just an offensive Dman to succeed in the NHL. So far, I haven't seen enough of either offence or defence from him. But I have seen flashes. He hasn't failed yet. Give him a little rope.