Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

WolfHouse

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The Habs board absolutely HATES Matheson.

Like, as much as we hate Stan
You're listening to the same board that said PLD wouldn't even get Dach as a return... okey dokey then.

And yeah, thats exactly why I think he's the best trade target - he's a super solid 2nd/3rd pairing guy who's playing 24 mins a game... His style fits Arniel's system and scoring D on all three pairing changes our playoffs...

Since you're quoting the Canadiens HFBoard as a quality source... then go see what they had to say about Kovacevic - judging by their reviews he WOULD be on Team Canada
 

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How does he get those points? Are we kicking Ehlers off the top PP, which Cozens gets in Buffalo?

That alone drops the point totals.

Looking at his usage it's very similar to Namestnikov's, a lot of O-zone starts with poorer defensive results. And similar offensive results. Can't say if that's the player or the system, because I don't watch Buffalo, thank God.

There's obviously a lot of attributes to the player.

But I am just a realist, I don't see Chevy trading any player who is signed here for another player. I can't think of the Jets ever making that kind of trade, other than Kane, for obvious reasons. The Jets dressing room is something that is built with a lot of pieces that have come to fit. It's tight nit.
Maybe that's the problem, I don't know. A lot of GMs will aggressively make changes.

But I like the chemistry that is there between Namestnikov and Chibrikov so far. With Perfetti too.

I see teams with more expendable assets, which the Jets don't necessarily have or want to trade being in a better position here.
Great synopsis. I like adding a D to get Stanley off the ice but want to keep the rest of the group together. Chibrikov has become a strong depth piece now, or is close to it.
 
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Great synopsis. I like adding a D to get Stanley off the ice but want to keep the rest of the group together. Chibrikov has become a strong depth piece now, or is close to it.
You have to believe that everybody who is already here, contributing to success ,will remain here after the deadline.

The Jets are operating different than some teams who are managing Cap Space with musical LTIR (To, Vcr, Sea, give Vegas time too). They have Cap space with which they are expanding the roster, as a result of injury. Sitting at about $3 million now with Ehlers and Samberg out, and players getting opportunity to contribute. That allows them to carry an extra forward and defenseman beyond the 23 player limit.

Of all the big names thrown out there, Bowem Byram is probably the player who would allow Chevy to keep that Cap structure, using existing Cap space, maybe knocks one d-man out of the loop. At the bottom end of the defense that would be Coghlan.

Maybe there isn't a big deal to be made. Seems like Lambert and Salomonsson could be better served in their development with the Jets than with the Moose. But if this is seen by Chevy as the best chance he has with this group, which has a lot of vets who may move on, cashing out on team success, there may be more imperative to add at what are seen as the Jets weakest positions, which isn't clear right now. Maybe the weakest position is a PKing winger, and the solution is Joel Armia. Or if you want to add toughness to the lineup with Stanley not in it, Brandon Tanev. Maybe it's defense. Maybe it's center. Maybe this isn't a playoff built team, plain and simple, which is tough for any GM to admit, when they play well during the regular season.

Rangers and Canucks are probably the next teams to make moves, with a lot more desperatioan in their positions.

Still waiting to see who becomes available in March when the playoff picture is maybe a little clearer.
 
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You're listening to the same board that said PLD wouldn't even get Dach as a return... okey dokey then.

And yeah, thats exactly why I think he's the best trade target - he's a super solid 2nd/3rd pairing guy who's playing 24 mins a game... His style fits Arniel's system and scoring D on all three pairing changes our playoffs...

Since you're quoting the Canadiens HFBoard as a quality source... then go see what they had to say about Kovacevic - judging by their reviews he WOULD be on Team Canada

Mostly indifferent to trading Kovacevic

At this point, I could say "the sky is blue" and you'd come up with "aKsUaLLy..."

You're my first use of the ignore feature. I promised myself I'd never use it, but there's just no point anymore
 

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You have to believe that everybody who is already here, contributing to success ,will remain here after the deadline.

The Jets are operating different than some teams who are managing Cap Space with musical LTIR (To, Vcr, Sea, give Vegas time too). They have Cap space with which they are expanding the roster, as a result of injury. Sitting at about $3 million now with Ehlers and Samberg out, and players getting opportunity to contribute. That allows them to carry an extra forward and defenseman beyond the 23 player limit.

Of all the big names thrown out there, Bowem Byram is probably the player who would allow Chevy to keep that Cap structure, using existing Cap space, maybe knocks one d-man out of the loop. At the bottom end of the defense that would be Coghlan.

Maybe there isn't a big deal to be made. Seems like Lambert and Salomonsson could be better served in their development with the Jets than with the Moose. But if this is seen by Chevy as the best chance he has with this group, which has a lot of vets who may move on, cashing out on team success, there may be more imperative to add at what are seen as the Jets weakest positions, which isn't clear right now. Maybe the weakest position is a PKing winger, and the solution is Joel Armia. Or if you want to add toughness to the lineup with Stanley not in it, Brandon Tanev. Maybe it's defense. Maybe it's center. Maybe this isn't a playoff built team, plain and simple, which is tough for any GM to admit, when they play well during the regular season.

Rangers and Canucks are probably the next teams to make moves, with a lot more desperatioan in their positions.

Still waiting to see who becomes available in March when the playoff picture is maybe a little clearer.
No one is trading for Armia. He isn’t what he used to be and even mtl fans want him gone.
 

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No one is trading for Armia. He isn’t what he used to be and even mtl fans want him gone.
He has 6 more goals than Nik in the playoffs. And 10 more than Barron. That alone would have some value. I think if you are trading for depth RW is a postion that doesn't have a lot of depth beyond Appleton. Especially in the RHS department.
 

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He has 6 more goals than Nik in the playoffs. And 10 more than Barron. That alone would have some value. I think if you are trading for depth RW is a postion that doesn't have a lot of depth beyond Appleton. Especially in the RHS department.
That he was good during a playoffs several years ago? Once again it depends on the cost as sure take as many shots as you like if they come cheap. Trading a 1st or a second on him would be a mistake.
 

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He has 6 more goals than Nik in the playoffs. And 10 more than Barron. That alone would have some value. I think if you are trading for depth RW is a postion that doesn't have a lot of depth beyond Appleton. Especially in the RHS department.
Always liked Armia, his has a really well developed game and would fit well here. The price tag could be an issue but if it's near the deadline and there was retention that would be a really nice depth piece
 
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If Mika Zibinijad waived, that would kind of be what you just described. Over 8mil until he's 36 and having a rough year so far.
NYR would have to attach at least a 1st to entice a contender to take on that contract.

If he could find his game in a change of scenery, he might be decent in the #2 centre spot.
 

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Always liked Armia, his has a really well developed game and would fit well here. The price tag could be an issue but if it's near the deadline and there was retention that would be a really nice depth piece
People are thinking big, but I'd be be happy with some depth pieces up front. PKers. You know come playoff time you are going to get the screw on some calls, especially if you get to Vegas, but even last year was an issue. Jets would probably like to get to top 10 in PK. But with current roster may not possible.

I'd add a guy like Sissons for the 4C, a little more experience than Kupari, played 2C with positive results with Nashville in the playoffs last year, and a depth guy, who rocks the PK like Armia. That's maybe a 3rd rd pick this year, and one next year at best for both. Can throw a prospect like Levis in if he is not going to sign here.

Depth chart looks something like

Connor-Scheif-Valardi
Ehlers-Namestnikov-Perfetti
Nino-Lowry-Appleton
Iafallo-Sissons-Chibrikov/Armia
Barron-Kupari-Armia/Cjhibrikov
AJF-Gustafsson-Lambert

2nd line isn't perfect but with Chibrikov there's a different option than Ehlers if Ehlers doesn't get the job done, Or Perfetti.

Still enough Cap space to add a defenseman, and have a depth of 10 players at that position, maybe 11 with Salomonsson.
 

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Always liked Armia, his has a really well developed game and would fit well here. The price tag could be an issue but if it's near the deadline and there was retention that would be a really nice depth piece

I don't think cost is really an issue by the time the holiday trade freeze is over he will have around a 1.75 mil cap hit for the rest of the season. For a 4th or a 5th rounder sounds good to me. Barron has looked extremely meh this year and Armia is for sure a better option than JAD, AJF, or Tomato.
 
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Cotton Eye Joe

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I'd go after Pulock from the Islanders.
Signed for another 3 seasons at 6.1 million.
Pair him up with JoMo and let them play 25 min a night.
Big, experienced, MB boy.
 
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I'd go after Pulock from the Islanders.
Signed for another 3 seasons at 6.1 million.
Pair him up with JoMo and let them play 25 min a night.
Big, experienced, MB boy.
There has never been any indication that Pulock or any other top Manitoba player has any desire to play in their home province. Some like Stone actually actively avoided it. You would be in a fish bowl in a gossipy smaller city where everyone has a story to tell about you and everyone you ever met wants free tickets.
 
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There has never been any indication that Pulock or any other top Manitoba player has any desire to play in their home province. Some like Stone actually actively avoided it. You would be in a fish bowl in a gossipy smaller city where everyone has a story to tell about you and everyone you ever met wants free tickets.
Possibly. Possibly not.
 

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There has never been any indication that Pulock or any other top Manitoba player has any desire to play in their home province. Some like Stone actually actively avoided it. You would be in a fish bowl in a gossipy smaller city where everyone has a story to tell about you and everyone you ever met wants free tickets.
Not sure what you mean that Stone “actively avoided it”? I assume you’re talking about when he was on the trade market in 2019 and the Jets were pursuing him? That doesn’t make sense, given he had no trade protection in his contract at that time.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the crux of your argument is 100% correct. I just have never heard anything about Mark Stone specifically that backs your argument up.
 

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Not sure what you mean that Stone “actively avoided it”? I assume you’re talking about when he was on the trade market in 2019 and the Jets were pursuing him? That doesn’t make sense, given he had no trade protection in his contract at that time.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the crux of your argument is 100% correct. I just have never heard anything about Mark Stone specifically that backs your argument up.
stone was traded with an extension and it's been rumored that he wasn't willing to extend in winnipeg
 

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Not sure what you mean that Stone “actively avoided it”? I assume you’re talking about when he was on the trade market in 2019 and the Jets were pursuing him? That doesn’t make sense, given he had no trade protection in his contract at that time.

Don’t get me wrong, I think the crux of your argument is 100% correct. I just have never heard anything about Mark Stone specifically that backs your argument up.
And the reports at the time is he would not sign with Winnipeg and wanted to go to LV.
 

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And the reports at the time is he would not sign with Winnipeg and wanted to go to LV.
Gotcha, that makes sense. Couldn’t remember the specifics.

At any rate, I can’t think of a single Manitoba born player that has made even a remote contribution to the Jets franchise as a player. Eric Fehr and his 3 points in 35 games may be the high water mark.
 

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Gotcha, that makes sense. Couldn’t remember the specifics.

At any rate, I can’t think of a single Manitoba born player that has made even a remote contribution to the Jets franchise as a player. Eric Fehr and his 3 points in 35 games may be the high water mark.
That tops Derek Meech's one point in 18 games lol

If you wanted to get technical about "franchise", JP Vigier put up 46 points for the Thrashers in 213 games (from Notre Dame de Lourdes)

He runs hockey camps out of Winnipeg nowadays
 
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If anything it feels like Namestnikov is playing his best hockey of his career in Winnipeg
Just love his utility. Hopefully he can stick around, he's been a bit of a suitcase lately

hard to take that too seriously, they are in love with hutson, any mistake he makes will immediately get blamed on who ever he is partnered with, not saying we should go after matheson just we shouldn't go by how habs fans view him
Lol where have we heard that before
 

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I'd go after Pulock from the Islanders.
Signed for another 3 seasons at 6.1 million.
Pair him up with JoMo and let them play 25 min a night.
Big, experienced, MB boy.
At what cost though? It probably will take a core player OR a couple top prospects.
 

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