Nobody wants to be traded to Calgary either. Edmonton is attractive only because they have the best player in the world on their roster AND McDavid.How do we get rid of the terrible stigma surrounding Winnipeg..
Edmonton and Calgary are just as cold
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Gil Fisher
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He's also about 5 seconds behind the play. You'll hear the goal horn while he's still describing the breakout.
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No. We have the best player in the world on our roster.
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Nice to hear a guy that was actually on the inside of the war room talk. Forget for a moment there are other teams usually in the bidding war, but Chevy needs to make a deal with a team and often have the targeted player agree to the move. Some years at the deadline it comes together like last year but this year the market was not there.
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How do we get rid of the terrible stigma surrounding Winnipeg..
Edmonton and Calgary are just as cold
We don't. The fact is there are a large number of players in the NHL that care more about just getting a pay cheque and living someplace warm ( or warmer ), then winning. The Jets could be winning the Stanley Cup 3 years in a row, and the Jets would still be on the majority of no trade lists.
I want players that want to win no matter where they play.
The best thing ever though would be the Jets winning the Stanley Cup then talking to all the players that turned down coming here.
Ok well i made my case and it actually aligns with what the players and management are saying, so I'll be fine if you dont agree.
I'm guessing you wanted us to pay the exorbitant prices yesterday, like Perfetti and two firsts for Rantanen and that's IF he'd extend in Winnipeg?
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I have never been busier with kids schedules so I watch way less Jets games than normal but the season has been so rewarding. Happy for a guy like Arniel who was banished to the North Wall for 12 years and is making the most of his second chance. Listening to Scott talk last summer I was struck by how much he was focused on getting ready for game 83. We’ll see how it turns out.
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As a former Coyote player said, flip flops and shorts to the arena golf on my off day I'm living the life. Oh well Arizona was nice for them while it lasted.
I love that!
One of the luxuries of having such a stupendous season is that the coaches can really focus on tuning and preparing for the playoffs, instead of just trying to make the postseason.
On one side for the players, fighting for the playoffs gets you into that battle mode that you need when you are there, but on the other side it takes its toll on your players and you worry that there's not much left in the tank when they get there.
I love that Arniel actually considers usage. The reason we had so much in the tank yesterday is that our top players weren't overtaxed in Philly, and even last night, once we had the game in hand Arnie spread out the minutes more.
That is going to pay dividends come playoff time.
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I could see Wolf standing on his head and Calgary upsetting them.
Utah and St. Louis haven’t rolled over when we’ve played them either.
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This why I say Chevy should name those players in press conferences…
”We tried to sign Brock Nelson, but apparently the wuss who makes his living playing hockey, a winter sport, doesn’t want to be in Canada, where hockey was invented, because he might get cold.”.
Seriously, what’s gonna happen if he said it, Nelson won’t come to Winnipeg even harder…..put these little bitches in their places.
They should either get rid of the NTC or have a max NTC team limit set at 3-5 teams. That way players can make sure they don’t play for teams they don’t like, coaches they don’t like, or in cities they don’t like…but that’s it.
Like for me it would be…
Toronto…I f***ING HATE TORONTO…everything about it, the teams, the fans, the people, the city, everything.
Florida and Tampa…zero interest in living in that state
(If 5 teams…Montreal because of the rabid french media expecting players to learn and speak french…and any team with Torts as coach…he and I would be like putting nitro glycerin into a blender and turning it on.)
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In the scenario he extends in Winnipeg I'd do that deal immediately.
We should not fear of any 4 of these in a best of 7.
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If we can finish 1st I’d say we are 95% likely getting into the 2nd round…then it heavily depends who we get matched up with
I thought Nelson had the choice between Colorado or Winnipeg and he chose Colorado. But it wasn't a refusal to play in Winnipeg. The Isles had 2 equal offers and let Brock decide...but he was willing to go to one or the other either way.
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I'll move my grade from a D to a C+ given that it seems like Chevy was willing to go all in but was stymied by player choices. Players haven't had a problem waiving before at the deadline so I'll assume that some players aren't sold on the Jets long-term viability in the playoffs, which I can understand to a degree given recent history. Colorado and Dallas do seem more like teams built around the playoffs.
That said, I feel like I'm in the minority when it comes to trading youth or picks. I understand wanting to keep the pipeline open but this is a team with a player like Scheifele who's good for top 15 in scoring in the league each year, Kyle Connor who's like a better Phil Kessel in his prime (and a year away from free agency), Ehlers who is a free agent after this season and none of the prospects seem like they're going to reach that level, Pionk playing way above his usual level, Vilardi who's (knock on wood) actually had a healthy season for the most part, Hellebuyck playing probably the best season of his career - are keeping mid level prospects like Lambert and late 1sts that could just as easily end up as Vesalainens instead of Connors, really worth giving up one of their best chances to win the Cup that they'll likely have in a long time?
Some of the people on here thought Dallas made a mistake giving up Stankoven and two 1sts for Rantanen, Stankoven MAY produce at Rantanen's level eventually, likely not though, and those two 1sts are likely to be late. They've got players playing well, in their prime, younger guys that they want to win now. It's not a bad deal in that context, nor is it really a bad deal in a vacuum given Rantanen's past performances.
Hopefully they keep 1st in the Central (I don't see them losing it at this point, it would take a mega collapse and a legendary run from Dallas to do that) because a 1st round matchup against the Avs would be a real mental test.
That said, I feel like I'm in the minority when it comes to trading youth or picks. I understand wanting to keep the pipeline open but this is a team with a player like Scheifele who's good for top 15 in scoring in the league each year, Kyle Connor who's like a better Phil Kessel in his prime (and a year away from free agency), Ehlers who is a free agent after this season and none of the prospects seem like they're going to reach that level, Pionk playing way above his usual level, Vilardi who's (knock on wood) actually had a healthy season for the most part, Hellebuyck playing probably the best season of his career - are keeping mid level prospects like Lambert and late 1sts that could just as easily end up as Vesalainens instead of Connors, really worth giving up one of their best chances to win the Cup that they'll likely have in a long time?
Some of the people on here thought Dallas made a mistake giving up Stankoven and two 1sts for Rantanen, Stankoven MAY produce at Rantanen's level eventually, likely not though, and those two 1sts are likely to be late. They've got players playing well, in their prime, younger guys that they want to win now. It's not a bad deal in that context, nor is it really a bad deal in a vacuum given Rantanen's past performances.
Hopefully they keep 1st in the Central (I don't see them losing it at this point, it would take a mega collapse and a legendary run from Dallas to do that) because a 1st round matchup against the Avs would be a real mental test.
I would have more then been willing to give up a Lambert/Barlow type prospect for a rental. I wasn't keen on giving up a top 2 prospect like Salomonsson or Yager for a 2C rental though.
I didn't actually think Carolina got full value for a signed Rantanen. They got imo a middle 6 caliber prospect in Stankoven and two late firsts for a signed 90 plus point powerforward. Dallas clearly wins this deal if Rantenan performs more like his Colorado self.
While I get your point about the window this core hasn't proven it can get it done. They have bombed out of the playoffs pretty much each year since 2018. That's a good 6 years of ineptitude from this group and Chevy has done what he can to bring in pieces to support it. Hopefully this year is different.
No one is going to roll over, but, they terrify me a lot less than when we played the avs.
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Yes, they haven't proven they can get it done. Nor can many teams. Dallas hasn't got it done. Carolina hasn't got it done. Toronto especially hasn't. They realize the window is now. I don't think this team with prospects like Yager and Solomonsson is going to be as good as they are now.
To the bolded, lucky for us, those are the only players we will get. Probably win/win. You might get a lot of players going to california or florida that just want to coast. If they come to Winnipeg (expecially this year and last) it's because they want to win.
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While everyone has an opinion about trading draft picks ... keep them or trade them here's one thing you have to keep in mind.
The teams who have no problem signing FAs can trade away their 1st or top prospects without setting the team back.
Tampa, Panthers, Dallas, Vegas, Avs has ZERO 1st round picks for the next 2 drafts ... Tampa 3 draft years.
Also another thing to keep in mind some drafts are weak and teams know this.
It usually takes 3 years for majority of these picks to make the team and yes every once in awhile there is an exception but I'm talking about the average.
In the end you can have all the best players but if the chemistry is not there you are not going to win.
The teams who have no problem signing FAs can trade away their 1st or top prospects without setting the team back.
Tampa, Panthers, Dallas, Vegas, Avs has ZERO 1st round picks for the next 2 drafts ... Tampa 3 draft years.
Also another thing to keep in mind some drafts are weak and teams know this.
It usually takes 3 years for majority of these picks to make the team and yes every once in awhile there is an exception but I'm talking about the average.
In the end you can have all the best players but if the chemistry is not there you are not going to win.
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True.
I like your version better. I believe Chevy went hard but I don't think that hard. Maybe he is the one who pushed Avs to overpay.
Honestly, I was never that sold on Nelson to begin with. He is good but in decline so I only wanted him as a rental. So I would only have paid rental price. Even then I thought it would be a gamble. On paper, Avs are very strong down the middle. Lets see how it works out on ice.
I hope Rantanen in Dallas is like Rantanen in Carolina, or even Huberdeau in Calgary. Time will tell.
That would certainly explain a lot!Who doesn't?
Oh wait, do you mean you don't?
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