GDT: 2024-25 season game 34 LA Kings vs Washington Capitals @2:00pm 12/22/24

[SherVaughn30]

Ok, let’s use Jeff Carter for example. He didn’t get traded to CBJ and then sign on to a massive contract. He had a massive contract and was traded to a place he did t want to be. Huge difference, my man.

We have big differences of opinion on PLD, so we will just leave it at that.

 

[AbsentMojo]

We have big differences of opinion on PLD, so we will just leave it at that.

The animus toward PLD is exponential because of the idiocy of the move both with the asset given up Vilardi and the ridiculous contract. When you look at what kind of character type you'd expect for that kind of commitment (something along the lines of characterwise Koip, JQ, JW or such) and get PLDs little pansy routine - you add all that together - and there is no way mentally to give that guy a pass. Granted a lot of that anger should be directed at the idiots running the team - but he is the avatar of what happened. No way we can be objective.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Besides Blake messing up, so did the coaching as well. They did a poor job finding how to utilize PLD's skill set. The Caps did their homework very well(they had players and a coach PLD was familiar with), and that is why he's having success with them. TMac/Hiller both have similar coaching issues. They force their system on the roster(the system kills offense, hence one of the reasons why the Kings have challenges scoring goals), neither coach was a players type coach(something I feel this roster needs). It's been the same broken record since Lombardi/Sutter left.

He's having his average career year, 60 points for an 8 million dollar player is NOT HAVING SUCCESS. But f*** man, get over it, get his number, go f*** him and be done with it already.....

He played like shit here, he had glimpses of what he can do, but he's uninspiried, lazy f***, leaving everyone he plays for wanting more. But you are right, CBS, WPG, and LA all have it wrong, WSH is the saviour team.....yep, that's it.

 

[DoktorJeep]

Blake’s taken two big swings, Kovy and Duby. Both were massive whiffs. To his credit, he recognized strike two faster than one. But he’s still learning on the job. So there is still time remaining for additional lessons in losing to be uncovered.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

Blake’s taken two big swings, Kovy and Duby. Both were massive whiffs. To his credit, he recognized strike two faster than one. But he’s still learning on the job. So there is still time remaining for additional lessons in losing to be uncovered.

Kovy didn't cost anything at all.....

 

[Axl Rhoadz]

Kovy didn't cost anything at all.....

Please say it louder so these guys can stop with the Kovalchuk flex.

 

[SettlementRichie10]

I’m really happy PLD finally found the right situation to succeed on his FOURTH TEAM lmao

 

[Surf Nutz]

I kinda like Kuemper...

He is better than advertised, this season so far.

 

[FSL KINGS]

Coaching is about getting the most out of your players. Todd failed & Blake allowed his coach to destroy his big off-season acquisition.

It's just gravy watching PL shutdown the King's top line while getting the primary assists on both goals.

Good times. Blake is a joke.

Oilers up next.
Let's see if this coach has realized the King's have to play the Oilers top forwards & D physically.

 

[All The Kings Men]

It's pretty much become a tossup between Roenick and PLD...but tiebreaker goes to the opportunity cost of PLD for the players and contract.

Both total slugs that blamed everyone but themselves and mouthed off on their way out of town despite being given literally everything one could give.

f*** that guy. Was rooting for him, now would love nothing more than the Caps to start losing and expose the fraud.

Roenick is barely even a bad memory to me at this point...

it cost nothing to acquire him and so much changed at the end of his single (half?) season that he barely registers as part of it.

Heck the Kings even got the draft pick that turned into Bud Holloway in the trade that brought Roenick to LA.

If we're talking about the pantheon of bad trades the Kings have made over the years the Roenick trade doesn't even crack the Top 10.

 

[King'sPawn]

Roenick is barely even a bad memory to me at this point...

it cost nothing to acquire him and so much changed at the end of his single (half?) season that he barely registers as part of it.

Heck the Kings even got the draft pick that turned into Bud Holloway in the trade that brought Roenick to LA.

If we're talking about the pantheon of bad trades the Kings have made over the years the Roenick trade doesn't even crack the Top 10.

Agreed.

I don't like Roenick much at all, but he's not even in the same stratosphere of destruction PLD did to the Kings.

I'd actually rank Cloutier higher up in bad trade acquisitions.

- paid picks when rebuilding
- was awful when he was here
- bought out/received little in return
- acrimonious attitude towards the organization after parting ways

He was basically PLD much earlier on a smaller scale.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Kovy didn't cost anything at all.....

that's not true you just don't care about the cost because it was covered by a number of other storylines

 

[Statto]

We have big differences of opinion on PLD, so we will just leave it at that.

Thank you.

You have finally united everyone on this board. I can’t recall the last time we essentially agreed on any subject.

 

[GoldenBearHockey]

that's not true you just don't care about the cost because it was covered by a number of other storylines

Let me rephrase, there was no asset cost to acquire Kovalchuk, there were real dollars spent, hows that?

 

[Choralone]

I'm used to players who get big contracts failing because they try to do too much to live up to their new deal. That was not an issue with PLD.

 

[FrozenKing18]

I don't know if i'm being trolled here or what. A couple of you guys actually jumping on that the coaches failed PLD? Are you f***ing serious? Did you watch PLD play? The guy had ZERO hustle, Zero tenacity, ZERO heart. You're telling me that it's the coaches job to tell a player to hustle on the ice, when that is 100% expected of you from the get go. f*** off with that bullshit.

 

[King'sPawn]

I don't know if i'm being trolled here or what. A couple of you guys actually jumping on that the coaches failed PLD? Are you f***ing serious? Did you watch PLD play? The guy had ZERO hustle, Zero tenacity, ZERO heart. You're telling me that it's the coaches job to tell a player to hustle on the ice, when that is 100% expected of you from the get go. f*** off with that bullshit.

In fairness, it's one person who is also a Caps fan, who thinks Washington is the only team to put in the work to appeal to PLD's needs.

 

[Telos]

I mean, PLD didn't look very good even in our game, his assists were gimme's and bounces and he looked pretty tame for being so "motivated." Nothing is gonna take away or remove the abomination that was last season. There was no coming back from that and there is zero chance that can be hung on coaching and utilization. Literally the worst effort I've ever seen in a Kings uniform. Lastly, PLD hasn't really proven anything yet...

 

[Raccoon Jesus]

I don't know if i'm being trolled here or what. A couple of you guys actually jumping on that the coaches failed PLD? Are you f***ing serious? Did you watch PLD play? The guy had ZERO hustle, Zero tenacity, ZERO heart. You're telling me that it's the coaches job to tell a player to hustle on the ice, when that is 100% expected of you from the get go. f*** off with that bullshit.

Well obviously

The 'tough' coach on the playoff team that put him in positions to succeed didn't know what he was doing

the veteran coaches--not one, but two--on his next playoff team that put him in positions to succeed didn't know what they were doing either

the 'players' coach on his third playoff team, after giving him salary and security as well as the softest deployment in the NHL with only PP and no PK defensive time after doing everything possible to settle him into the city, enacting a 'gold star' system, and having the hall of fame GM himself down on the ice to help out didn't know what they were doing AND they were just big meanieheads

obviously Washington is just smarter than everyone else, even though he's scoring at a 12 goal pace despite being on the best team in the league and completely carried by Protas and McMichael. Surely the good vibes will continue when they aren't as hot/start losing, surely.

Everything is easy when you're winning. This chest thumping is going to be hilarious when they aren't.

 

[All The Kings Men]

Let me rephrase, there was no asset cost to acquire Kovalchuk, there were real dollars spent, hows that?

its a choice of perspective and one I personally find to be inaccurate but whatever...

 

[Lt Dan]

its a choice of perspective and one I personally find to be inaccurate but whatever...

Happy Hanukkah Jesse. Thanks for all the insight you give us here on HF