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GDT: 2024-25 season game 26 LA Kings vs Dallas Stars @7:00pm 12/24/24

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BigKing said:
It is because I am older now since being older now means I was there for a product I prefer much more.

I love when a game feels like it is on the edge of a riot breaking out and we used to have players on nearly every team that had the potential to incite said riot. I mean, I've been saying this for over a decade now but these players weren't replaced with tremendous skill players, they were replaced by a bunch boring players that can skate but not score, hit, or fight. These shifts are now commercial breaks during live play. The fact they can skate also means that the real skill players can't feast on them either so removing toughness for this "skill" doesn't mean more scoring.

As Adam Ant said in "Goody Two Shoes": "Don't drink, don't smoke: what do you do?"

The enforcer era is long gone and I've already accepted that, but there are too many teams that are just flat out boring. If your favorite team sucked, you'd still get entertainment. Now, you just suck and it doesn't look like the team cares that they suck. There is more money in it and these guys are mostly not looking to take some guy's paycheck away whereas the old days had guys who would do anything for their own paycheck. Is it more civilized now? Sure. Is it more entertaining? Absolutely not.

The intensity of hockey and the bad blood aspect--coupled with the insane skill--is what finally pulled me away from basketball in the mid-90s to where it became my favorite sport and it soon overtook football. You take that away and I might as well be watching basketball again.

I care much more about my fantasy football team than the Kings. Flew to England because I couldn't miss two games against the Ducks. Sure, I'm older and busier but I would make the time if it was worth it but they continually leave me with the feeling of "Once again, I did not miss anything" after I watch the game from the comfort of my couch on DVR.
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Lots of good points in this post. The boredom is the main problem for me. Who on this team do you look forward to watching? For me it was Vilardi and now Clarke. Kopi and DD sure they are legends and part of cup wins, but rarely since the cup excitement 10 yrs ago have I ever said wow when watching them play... yes you can admire their defensive skills as a hockey purist. I envy teams like the Avs, Carolina, and Edm when most every shift someone is doing something exciting. To be this boring and a black hole team with no pipeline is worse than enduring a rebuild. Thats where my pessimism is rooted. I understand how some posters get tired of hearing about it, but all we're doing is expressing how we feel about losing the feeling of passion for something we used to really get excited about.
 
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Sol said:
I’ve legit only watched like 7-8 full games this entire season. I have zero interest for the first time in my life as a Kings fan. There is no passion in this team and no one gives a shit. And the rookies are bums and the only good one the Kings traded.

Nothing to get up for.
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It's ok man. Bluc will get canned eventually. We just have to have faith until then.

Sounds like you need a hug. They still got mall Santa's? Maybe hit one of those up. This team is extremely frustrating. Just watching Blake flush assets down the drain so they don't have anything left to fill the holes. Division is looking weak this year too.
 
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FSL KINGS said:
It's ok man. Bluc will get canned eventually. We just have to have faith until then.

Sounds like you need a hug. They still got mall Santa's? Maybe hit one of those up. This team is extremely frustrating. Just watching Blake flush assets down the drain so they don't have anything left to fill the holes. Division is looking weak this year too.
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Items from your post in the order than I want them for Christmas

1) Bluc canned
2) Punching a mall Santa
3) a hug
4) watching Blake flush
5) spackling the holes
6) hearing Faith by George Michael
 
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Lt Dan said:
Perhaps.
But at the end of the day the Kings have had worse playoff success with each season.

There are some very bright spots this season but also some things to be very concerned about.


Before this current win streak, the Kings consistency was something to be very concerned with.
They remind of my friend who is always trying to lose weight

Eating binge
Followed by "I need to lose weight" with a short period of strictly regimented keto diet
Followed by an easing of the diet but still some results
Followed by binging

The Kings before this streak were that guy
Bad loss
Adolf Hiller drops the hammer and they play an almost perfect game
Next game siouch off a little but still win
Next game back to old habits and lose ,
rinse, repeat

The good news is they currently have broken the cycle.





Here is the schedule for reference, with a good starting point



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Those two cup wins basically made a few posters incredibly greedy and unrealistic, me thinks.

Than you have a large group who clearly werent born or a LA fan between 1994 and 2008 or so. I even read people have lost all interest. Lucky for them, they missed those years. They would probably have jumped off a bridge.

Most NHL teams are just league filling. They take part, miss the playoffs or lose in the first round. Thats it.

How must fans of Calgary, NY Islanders, Minnesota etc etc feel.
 
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Frolov 6'3 said:
Those two cup wins basically made a few posters incredibly greedy and unrealistic, me thinks.

Than you have a large group who clearly werent born or a LA fan between 1994 and 2008 or so. I even read people have lost all interest. Lucky for them, they missed those years.

Most NHL teams are just league filling. They take part, miss the playoffs or lose in the first round. Thats it.

How must fans of Calgary, the Islanders etc etc feel.
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Both bold portion are absolutely true

But, what people are rightfully upset about is a clear direction and that plan being executed properly. Lombardi was the only GM to ever do it.
 
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Frolov 6'3 said:
Yes it works both ways but there was not much blind optimism in that particular quote but even that needed to be shot down.

The last seasons we had to read LA constantly messed it up vs bottom feeders. Now they win most of those and a new argument is born…a light schedule.

Its getting terribly annoying, yes.
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They didn't, though. It's the same scenario--last season they were literally best in the league vs. bottom 16 teams and almost worst in the league vs. top 16 (aka playoff) teams.

This season it's almost the same--but with a few convincing wins vs. top teams and a few godawful losses against bottom rung teams (SJx2, Chicago).

I personally feel a little better this season as last year they were doing it with everything going right--this year they're doing it with almost everything going wrong AND a new system/coach so I WANT to think things can only get better but with this franchise's history especially recently who can blame anyone for thinking the worst...and doubly so after last seasons' rug pull
 
Lt Dan said:
Both bold portion are absolutely true

But, what people are rightfully upset about is a clear direction and that plan being executed properly. Lombardi was the only GM to ever do it.
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Right.

The issue isn't so much blackholing--that will happen to most teams.

The issue is being a team on the way up, but then suddenly pushing all your chips in too early, then just becoming a team that's getting older but not better with no reinforcements on a way.

Way I see it--You can be rebuilding like the Sharks, building into contention like the Devils, orhave your window fully open like about 5-6 teams like Dallas, Avs, Leafs, TBL, etc....you can even be on the other side of that hump like the 2015-2018 Kings and try to retool, like the Bruins did or the Blues have unsuccessfully attempted. Those are all acceptable processes/outcomes with a vision.

But the worst spot to be in is a has-been never-was like the current incarnation of the Kings, or the Calgary Flames, or even the Canucks. You're never good enough to catch the true contenders, and you're about to be passed by younger teams, and what really is the goal other than 'get in and pray?'. Hope is not a strategy. I think it's arguable it's even better to be in a Buffalo style rebuild that almost never ends because at least there's a vision even if it's not hitting.
 
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11/7 is easy to explain. King's don't have 12 forwards worth skating on a daily basis. Also gives the coach the opportunity to cycle guys through to put a dangerous player out with the 4th line. Causes match up issues from other teams.

Downside is Kopi may not have the legs for it over the season.
 
I'd argue that Lee and Helenius have chemistry together, as long as they both play at the same time, individually its a different story. They were an effective 4th line the last time they all played, with Lewis I believe. Akil Thomas is also serviceable as a bottom winger (when he's healthy). I doubt we'll see Fagemo called up unless the injuries get really bad...
 
Kings should be up there with the Lakers and Dodgers for top sports teams in LA. The fan dollars are there. But most fans are ok with being a niche sport. They don’t care that we are a leading city on the globe for economy and the birthplace of the entertainment industry.

As long as this exists the Kings will never be viewed as a perennial threat to win it all.
 
Raccoon Jesus said:
Right.

The issue isn't so much blackholing--that will happen to most teams.

The issue is being a team on the way up, but then suddenly pushing all your chips in too early, then just becoming a team that's getting older but not better with no reinforcements on a way.

Way I see it--You can be rebuilding like the Sharks, building into contention like the Devils, orhave your window fully open like about 5-6 teams like Dallas, Avs, Leafs, TBL, etc....you can even be on the other side of that hump like the 2015-2018 Kings and try to retool, like the Bruins did or the Blues have unsuccessfully attempted. Those are all acceptable processes/outcomes with a vision.

But the worst spot to be in is a has-been never-was like the current incarnation of the Kings, or the Calgary Flames, or even the Canucks. You're never good enough to catch the true contenders, and you're about to be passed by younger teams, and what really is the goal other than 'get in and pray?'. Hope is not a strategy. I think it's arguable it's even better to be in a Buffalo style rebuild that almost never ends because at least there's a vision even if it's not hitting.
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The worst part of all of this imo is there is no impetus to change from being a black hole team. Thefranchise makes money hand over fist and apparently this is the goal because winning a championship obviously isnt. The ownership displays all the charachteristics of absentee status and is fully on board with the present manhattan beach surf club management boys. Obviously the franchise is a business but why cant a successful kings franchise have the dual goal of being a stanley cup champion? Tampa has done it. Vegas has done it (albeit with help) whynot us?
 
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chris kontos said:
The worst part of all of this imo is there is no impetus to change from being a black hole team. Thefranchise makes money hand over fist and apparently this is the goal because winning a championship obviously isnt. The ownership displays all the charachteristics of absentee status and is fully on board with the present manhattan beach surf club management boys. Obviously the franchise is a business but why cant a successful kings franchise have the dual goal of being a stanley cup champion? Tampa has done it. Vegas has done it (albeit with help) why not us?
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Blake is a bad GM.
 
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Frolov 6'3 said:
Those two cup wins basically made a few posters incredibly greedy and unrealistic, me thinks.

Than you have a large group who clearly werent born or a LA fan between 1994 and 2008 or so. I even read people have lost all interest. Lucky for them, they missed those years. They would probably have jumped off a bridge.

Most NHL teams are just league filling. They take part, miss the playoffs or lose in the first round. Thats it.

How must fans of Calgary, NY Islanders, Minnesota etc etc feel.
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I think the Lombardi era gave posters a real taste of what success looks like.

It’s hard to go back to LA country club business as usual after that.
 
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Frolov 6'3 said:
Most NHL teams are just league filling. They take part, miss the playoffs or lose in the first round. Thats it.
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Consider that you (and a lot of fans) might be looking at it in an unfinished manner. Organizations at the beginning of a change are not as concerned with each individual season as it's own entity, they look at it as a lengthy process that isn't constricted by time frames. Proper planning takes as long as it takes, and individual seasonal goals are just a component of that.
 
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We are all just spoiled rotten by the kings long term history of regular season, playoff and stanley cup sucess.
What a crock of shit.
 
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Frolov 6'3 said:
Those two cup wins basically made a few posters incredibly greedy and unrealistic, me thinks.

Than you have a large group who clearly werent born or a LA fan between 1994 and 2008 or so. I even read people have lost all interest. Lucky for them, they missed those years. They would probably have jumped off a bridge.

Most NHL teams are just league filling. They take part, miss the playoffs or lose in the first round. Thats it.

How must fans of Calgary, NY Islanders, Minnesota etc etc feel.
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SherVaughn30 said:
That is always been the story with Rittich. He has good games and not so good games. Overall his SV% is still below .900. He's played a bit better of late, but he won't sustain it.
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Miracles happen during the days of Christmas Sher.

Stop looking at stats and look up for Rudolph the red nosed reindeer.
 
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