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3 second lines and proper line matching from Cronin might be, however.Three third lines certainly wouldnt be ‘too much optimism’
3 second lines and proper line matching from Cronin might be, however.Three third lines certainly wouldnt be ‘too much optimism’
Come on guys, I know we have been bad, But there’s no scenario where we have “ 3 3rd lines” we have 3 solid 2nd lines. With potential for 2 of the lines to become middle of the pack 1st lines this year.3 second lines and proper line matching from Cronin might be, however.
Come on guys, I know we have been bad, But there’s no scenario where we have “ 3 3rd lines” we have 3 solid 2nd lines. With potential for 2 of the lines to become middle of the pack 1st lines this year.
I'm just trying to temper my expectations, I'm hoping for entertaining hockey, I remember the start of the season last year and how much fun it was in person, hadn't had that in some time. I tell myself playoffs are not happening so I'm not disappointed, and if by some miracle it does happen I'll be ecstatic.Come on guys, I know we have been bad, But there’s no scenario where we have “ 3 3rd lines” we have 3 solid 2nd lines. With potential for 2 of the lines to become middle of the pack 1st lines this year.
Gotcha, it’s been brutal for so long that I definitely understand where you’re coming from. Lgd!I'm just trying to temper my expectations, I'm hoping for entertaining hockey, I remember the start of the season last year and how much fun it was in person, hadn't had that in some time. I tell myself playoffs are not happening so I'm not disappointed, and if by some miracle it does happen I'll be ecstatic.
Regardless I'll be watching every game (if I can).
Also, I agree with you on the 3 2nd lines, the above was just explaining my reason for the bleak outlook.
I don’t consider lines with 2-3 of the players on every line to be sub-20 goals and 40 or fewer points to be “solid” 2nd lines, and that’s what we are entering the year with.Come on guys, I know we have been bad, But there’s no scenario where we have “ 3 3rd lines” we have 3 solid 2nd lines. With potential for 2 of the lines to become middle of the pack 1st lines this year.
In all fairness, they had so many injuries, it was a revolving door for the Top 6, couldn’t get consistent chemistry going. You miss one or two guys for some games , can still manage. They lost like 4 or 5 Top 6 guys and for longer stretches than just a few games.I’m certainly not saying any or all of that is a guarantee, but none of our lines produced like a playoff caliber 2nd line for more than spurts last year.
Yeah, that was the injuries part. It’s not like we have had significant production out of more than 2-3 of any of these players at a time in any of the last 3 years. Getting to 2nd lines requires across the board improvements in health and production.In all fairness, they had so many injuries, it was a revolving door for the Top 6, couldn’t get consistent chemistry going. You miss one or two guys for some games , can still manage. They lost like 4 or 5 Top 6 guys and for longer stretches than just a few games.
Yeah, that was the injuries part. It’s not like we have had significant production out of more than 2-3 of any of these players at a time in any of the last 3 years. Getting to 2nd lines requires across the board improvements in health and production.
Yes. How much will be the question. Have to see how much usage he gets in preseason, but he came in huge and looks good.Do any of you see Luneau playing in the NHL this year?
Yeah. I feel like guessing at our team points total is a fools errandI don’t even want to predict the team standings but if we can get a single PPG player this year, who hits 80+ points, will call it a lot of progress. But with that need to be healthy and find consistency.
Yeah. I feel like guessing at our team points total is a fools errand
But it would be nice to have at least 1 top line equivalent player at pointish per game. That would be a great step.
How many 50 pt + players does everyone venture we have next year? Because that i think is a fair second line performance over a season since it is pretty close to second line average across the league….
We had vatrano and terry reach that mark last year playing first line min of course
I agree with all of the above. If we have several 50+ point players that is a concrete metric that encompasses 2-4 on your list. To get to 50 pts someone probably had to play majority of games (not injured), the ES and PP offenses likely had to score some goals.Depending on health, we could see Mac, Killorn, and maybe Carlsson hit 50 points. If Carlsson hits 50 points and Cutter is his winger, then it's possible to add Cutter to that 50 points club. Mac was a ppg player in 29 games (a 20 game stretch and a 9 game stretch) last year.
Also, we have a new PP coach. Maybe we cash in a lot of PP points that way.
But I'll be conservative and focus on:
1) team discipline
2) being healthy
3) ES offense improvement
4) PP improvement
5) PK improvement
We don't have to be playoff contenders, but we gotta see improvements in these five aspects. The fewer penalties means fewer goals given up on the PK, which could lead to more wins. Simple things like that is what I want to see.
I agree with all of the above. If we have several 50+ point players that is a concrete metric that encompasses 2-4 on your list. To get to 50 pts someone probably had to play majority of games (not injured), the ES and PP offenses likely had to score some goals.
If you, Cronin, a collective sacrifice of gecko feet and batwings in a witches cauldron could by some miracle make us an average team with regards to penalties taken well I bet we improve 10-20pts in standings alone just from that.
Probably won’t matter, but worth mentioning that LaCombe only needs 7 more NHL games until he loses waiver exemption.
Fowler (50% retained), LaCombe, Gibson (50% retained), high 2025 pick for Top 2 defensive D with multiple years remaining on contract? (Don't judge, I have no clue what to suggest for a balanced trade looking for this)Good, let’s send him to the gulls asap then, or alongside fowler in a trade. Either is fine by me
That might work in video games.Fowler (50% retained), LaCombe, Gibson (50% retained), high 2025 pick for Top 2 defensive D with multiple years remaining on contract? (Don't judge, I have no clue what to suggest for a balanced trade looking for this)
Yeah i figured, but was just trying for something based on that initial concept of shipping out both Fowler and LaCombe.That might work in video games.
Seriously though, noone looking to trade a top pairing defensemen with term is going to want the best piece to be an unknown pick next year.
You dont see top pairing defensemen with term traded for a reason. They are really hard to get.
I'll take Pysyk at $875k (or thereabouts) over Klingberg's $7 million. And Pysyk will probably actually put forth some effort which would be a difference as wellPysyk as a RHD who wears #3 keeps reminding me of Klinger lol
Unless Luneau proves beyond any doubt that he’s ready for the NHL, I would be on board with signing Pysyk and starting Luneau in the AHL. Even if Luneau is in the NHL, signing Pysyk is probably a good idea.I'll take Pysyk at $875k (or thereabouts) over Klingberg's $7 million. And Pysyk will probably actually put forth some effort which would be a difference as well
Unless Luneau proves beyond any doubt that he’s ready for the NHL, I would be on board with signing Pysyk and starting Luneau in the AHL. Even if Luneau is in the NHL, signing Pysyk is probably a good idea.