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2024-25 Roster Thread #2: Midseasonnar

Won’t let me like a random post for some random reason. Or maybe not so random reason, I’m just not reading all this.
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It also posts two pics for me.
As always F automerge. Why could t that have gotten broken?
 
Kimmo was asked about Richards and Carter on his podcast. He said they were all great friends on and off the ice and has only positive things to say about both of them. Called Richards quiet leader who always gave his all on the ice and was always reliable. Also called him quiet off the ice. He told how Carter was a player (mobile, good shot, good at faceoffs) but that was basically it.

I was happy about the question and had to pause what I was doing to hear his answer so this kind of vanilla answer was quite disappointing but understandable.

One time he told a story after the 2010 Olympics when Snider sent his private jet to pick up Pronger, Timonen and Richards as they had a game the next day. Timonen was just laughing how drunk both Pronger and Richards still were and and how short shifts they took the next game.
 
Just had to post this. The Flyers are apparently one of the leagues pleasant surprises, LOL! Proteau is losing it. I wonder how much Jones slipped him for this write up?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/flam...ls-biggest-positive-surprises-at-halfway-mark

Philadelphia Flyers​

The Flyers wowed the hockey world in the early part of last season by flirting with a top spot in the Metropolitan Division before just missing the playoffs and finishing sixth in the division.

This season, Philadelphia is looking just as feisty, putting together a 17-19-5 record. That has them in seventh place in the wild-card race, but they’re only three points behind the Blue Jackets and five points behind Tampa for the two wild-card slots.

Philly’s biggest issue is its defense, which is currently third-worst in the NHL at a goals-against average of 3.54. There’s little chance the Flyers can overcome that problem and still earn a playoff berth, so Philadelphia coach John Tortorella’s challenge is obvious – tighten things up in their defensive zone or suffer the same fate as the Flyers suffered in 2023-24.

Flyers fans are well aware of the team’s place in their rebuilding program, but it would be an excellent treat for their supporters if they were able to mix in a playoff appearance for the first time in five years.
 
Tortorella is
deadhead said:
No. Why?

I think he's a first rate development HC, his problems has been with veteran laden teams that don't like his approach and are set in their ways. Turned around TB and CBJ, and will do the same here in a couple years.

I've listened to his pressers all season and what stands out is how patient and reasonable he is, but if you want cliches or someone who coddles players, you got the wrong guy. He doesn't get bent out of shape when they lose, just when they play badly - he knows they're a young team, they're going to make mistakes and be inconsistent. He sees these mistakes as teaching moments.

I'm seeing a bunch of young players making real progress, Cates, Brink, Foerster, Frost, York, Zamula, etc. Michkov's struggles aren't due to Torts, he's tried to protect the kid by lowering expectations - but the adjustment to the NHL, the NHL schedule and a new country is tough.


Other than sustaining, what could they do that would say "sustainable production?"
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Tortorella is horrendous at player development. One of the worst coaches you can have to develop players.

deadhead said:
Wait, Andrae is now "one of the better dmen in the franchise" over a 9 game stretch?
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You have no issue cherry picking small sample sizes when it fits your narrative but now balk because someone else did the same?
 
Larry44 said:
Just had to post this. The Flyers are apparently one of the leagues pleasant surprises, LOL! Proteau is losing it. I wonder how much Jones slipped him for this write up?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/flam...ls-biggest-positive-surprises-at-halfway-mark

Philadelphia Flyers​

The Flyers wowed the hockey world in the early part of last season by flirting with a top spot in the Metropolitan Division before just missing the playoffs and finishing sixth in the division.

This season, Philadelphia is looking just as feisty, putting together a 17-19-5 record. That has them in seventh place in the wild-card race, but they’re only three points behind the Blue Jackets and five points behind Tampa for the two wild-card slots.

Philly’s biggest issue is its defense, which is currently third-worst in the NHL at a goals-against average of 3.54. There’s little chance the Flyers can overcome that problem and still earn a playoff berth, so Philadelphia coach John Tortorella’s challenge is obvious – tighten things up in their defensive zone or suffer the same fate as the Flyers suffered in 2023-24.

Flyers fans are well aware of the team’s place in their rebuilding program, but it would be an excellent treat for their supporters if they were able to mix in a playoff appearance for the first time in five years.
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The biggest issue is not defense... It's subpar goaltending, and also the inability to consistently convert chances.
 
Larry44 said:
Just had to post this. The Flyers are apparently one of the leagues pleasant surprises, LOL! Proteau is losing it. I wonder how much Jones slipped him for this write up?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/flam...ls-biggest-positive-surprises-at-halfway-mark

Philadelphia Flyers​

The Flyers wowed the hockey world in the early part of last season by flirting with a top spot in the Metropolitan Division before just missing the playoffs and finishing sixth in the division.

This season, Philadelphia is looking just as feisty, putting together a 17-19-5 record. That has them in seventh place in the wild-card race, but they’re only three points behind the Blue Jackets and five points behind Tampa for the two wild-card slots.

Philly’s biggest issue is its defense, which is currently third-worst in the NHL at a goals-against average of 3.54. There’s little chance the Flyers can overcome that problem and still earn a playoff berth, so Philadelphia coach John Tortorella’s challenge is obvious – tighten things up in their defensive zone or suffer the same fate as the Flyers suffered in 2023-24.

Flyers fans are well aware of the team’s place in their rebuilding program, but it would be an excellent treat for their supporters if they were able to mix in a playoff appearance for the first time in five years.
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This just screams that not one hockey pundit is actually paying attention. They see John as coach, Briere and Jones as former players in management and are like hey this teams heading in the right direction.

Meanwhile anyone who's watched the team the past 3 seasons would know this team is still on the mediocre train with no station in sight.
 
Larry44 said:
Just had to post this. The Flyers are apparently one of the leagues pleasant surprises, LOL! Proteau is losing it. I wonder how much Jones slipped him for this write up?

https://thehockeynews.com/news/flam...ls-biggest-positive-surprises-at-halfway-mark

Philadelphia Flyers​

The Flyers wowed the hockey world in the early part of last season by flirting with a top spot in the Metropolitan Division before just missing the playoffs and finishing sixth in the division.

This season, Philadelphia is looking just as feisty, putting together a 17-19-5 record. That has them in seventh place in the wild-card race, but they’re only three points behind the Blue Jackets and five points behind Tampa for the two wild-card slots.

Philly’s biggest issue is its defense, which is currently third-worst in the NHL at a goals-against average of 3.54. There’s little chance the Flyers can overcome that problem and still earn a playoff berth, so Philadelphia coach John Tortorella’s challenge is obvious – tighten things up in their defensive zone or suffer the same fate as the Flyers suffered in 2023-24.

Flyers fans are well aware of the team’s place in their rebuilding program, but it would be an excellent treat for their supporters if they were able to mix in a playoff appearance for the first time in five years.
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There's so much wrong here. How is 17-19-5 feisty? Five points behind Tampa being almost portrayed as nothing much despite the dumb 2-1-0 system? Didn't Briere say we are not rebuilding? Wtf is 7th place in WC race? A nicer way to say 4th from the bottom of conference?
 
I’m not necessarily a believer in Washington as the year goes on in terms of are they a cup contender. Carolina, New Jersey, Toronto, & Florida are probably the best of the conference in some order. I think Tampa Bay in the same bucket as Washington in that they’re good & will make the playoffs but probably not a cup contender.

But there’s a lot of bad to mediocre teams in the east & the Flyers are one of them. So not really sure that’s worth celebrating.
 
LegionOfDoom91 said:
I’m not necessarily a believer in Washington as the year goes on in terms of are they a cup contender. Carolina, New Jersey, Toronto, & Florida are probably the best of the conference in some order. I think Tampa Bay in the same bucket as Washington in that they’re good & will make the playoffs but probably not a cup contender.

But there’s a lot of bad to mediocre teams in the east & the Flyers are one of them. So not really sure that’s worth celebrating.
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Yeah, I just checked the standings and - honestly - we are not out of the PO race, despite the god-awful recent results. Meanwhile, West PO cut-off is currently .575
 
FLYguy3911 said:
lol

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College coaches always talk up their former players (unless they absolutely hated them), it's good for recruiting.

LegionOfDoom91 said:
I’m not necessarily a believer in Washington as the year goes on in terms of are they a cup contender. Carolina, New Jersey, Toronto, & Florida are probably the best of the conference in some order. I think Tampa Bay in the same bucket as Washington in that they’re good & will make the playoffs but probably not a cup contender.

But there’s a lot of bad to mediocre teams in the east & the Flyers are one of them. So not really sure that’s worth celebrating.
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It's not about celebrating.
It's about giving players something to play for, even if it's a mirage.

The Flyer goaltending has been awful, worst Sv%, worst excess goals allowed, in the NHL.
Last night Ersson gave up a bad rebound for a goal, though I give him a pass due to rust.
But you just can't continually give up an extra goal a game and expect to beat good teams.
 
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