2024-25 Roster Thread #2: Midseasonnar

[LegionOfDoom91]

 

[Beef Invictus]

ES points are more "stable."
At lower levels they're also better predictors b/c they reflect playing with smaller windows.
Top players get a lot of lower level PP points simply b/c they play on PP1.

Think about the Flyer PP, even a player as good as Michkov isn't going to pile up points the way he would on a top PP, conversely on a good PP, the 4th and 5th players on PP1 are going to get 20+ points just by "being there" (i.e. passing the puck around and picking up assists).

Cool but PP goals still count so entirely writing them off is weird, and as I recall you only become so gung ho on this silly point of completely disregarding PP production as a means to defend bad decisionmaking around Voracek and Ghost.

 

[Beef Invictus]

So much for trades not happening before the TDL

 

[Hollywood Cannon]

“Trades are hard.” - Some guy that has never even met Danny Briere (or so I’m told).

 

[Curufinwe]

So the Cup champs, a team run by a living fossil, and a team run by a triumvirate.

 

[Flyerfan4life]

17 phonecalls is hard..

ps #rebuilding...

 

[Lord Defect]

No because only a few players get to play on PP1.
So if you want to compare apples to apples, stick with ES points.
Still affected by teams, schemes, linemates, but more informative.

Bergeron is a good example, played on the PP early in his career, then taken off after a few years b/c he was too valuable in other roles. Still the same player even if his point totals were smaller.

Which doesn't mean PP points don't have value. But that's special teams play, just like the PK.
Why value PP points more than PK points avoided (harder to measure but mirror image)?

So the Cup champs, a team run by a living fossil, and a team run by a triumvirate.

The rangers made a trade though

 

[Adam Warlock]

So the Cup champs, a team run by a living fossil, and a team run by a triumvirate.

The triumvirate is a great point. Id love to know how many trades DB worked out that were vetoed by Torts and Jones. Def would explain the lack of moves.

 

[freakydallas13]