2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

Hollywood Cannon

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Haven't heard hide or hair from either of them.
Think they spend most of their time golfing in Florida.
Hilferty brings out their corpses twice a year now.

You’re in the front office on a daily basis? You know the inner workings? Quite bold to speak so definitively on the matter.

P.S. from a Draft scouting meeting this summer.
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P.P.S. from Fedotov’s arrival.

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deadhead

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I think for Zamula it's a matter of acknowledging his limitations.

He lacks speed and it's easier to check a tall player off the puck, so he has to be aware of forecheckers and make quick decisions. Life comes at you fast in the NHL.

From that article:

"I think I started playing simple, very simple and hard in front of the net," he said. "I'm not trying to force plays and I think it has helped me a lot. Because from Game 1, I started forcing it and forcing it to make plays and it didn't work. Now I feel like I'm back in my game. I still need to make the plays."
 

deadhead

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Sanheim did not play ANY special teams under Dave Hakstol in two years so that is a lie. He got special teams work immediately after Hakstol got fired, went on a 50 point pace only to come back the next year under AV and not get PP time.
He didn't as a rookie, but was up and down and only played 49 games, Ghost hogged the PP minutes.
1:02 on the PP his 2nd season, 0:54 his 3rd season, 0:33 his 4th.
 

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Why do I question the Flyers ability to develop players?

Couturier was pegged as a defense first player and given no pp time for years despite the fact that he was seen as potentially the first pick overall in his draft year before he contracted mono. By the time they started to realize there was more to his game than checking, he had 5 years of hard wear and tear on his tires.

Sanheim, clearly a skilled player, has rarely been given an extended look on the pp. Hell, for years the organization favored the less talented Provorov and even Robert Hagg over TS.

They continually play Laughton at center when his skill set is much better utilized on the wing.

Time and time again, they put skilled players on lines with grinders and then wonder why those players don’t produce.

They see no value in a player like Ghost but fawn over a prospect like Hunter McDonald.

They pass over a Dman with 1D potential because they feel having York, Drysdale and Andrae doesn’t allow them to draft another sub 6’1 D, even though Drysdale has done squat, Andrae is still a wildcard and there is no guarantee that York, or any of the three, will even be here by the time a guy like Buium would be coming into his prime.

They keep Luchanko on the roster simply to make themselves feel smart and to try and justify the selection. The kid was nowhere near ready to play in the NHL.

There’s more, much more, but I think the point has been made.
This is the main issue with the organization. It only values certain skills. They draft players and attempt to mold these guys into slow, methodical grinders irregardless of what abilities they have.
When Giroux was traded he was asked who was the most skilled player on the club now that he was gone. He answered that without a doubt that it was Farabee. Since then we have not seen that play from him since the PTB want him to be a grinding prototype power forward which he is not and never will be. He has wheels and a shot that could be deadly in a fluid offense. Like others, his ability has been wasted here.
A similar thing is happening to MM. Some dunce last week said that Michkov has to change his style of play from the open ice looping and skating style of the KHL. Excuse me; why not create open ice with skating opportunities for the kid? When he gets out there, like last night with TK, exciting things happen.
The organization needs to recognize what successful hockey is in 2024. Draft players that can do those things and stop the decades of suppressing skills.
 

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Weird that the team has done absolutely everything perfectly - incredible coaching, fixed the culture, great drafting, great development, great signings/trades - and yet they’re one of the worst teams in the league and haven’t improved at all.
Literally click the thread cause you were the most recent post. Scroll up to skim the current page. Yup it's lap 283737261627373838. I don't miss much.
 
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Weird that the team has done absolutely everything perfectly - incredible coaching, fixed the culture, great drafting, great development, great signings/trades - and yet they’re one of the worst teams in the league and haven’t improved at all.

Do you ever get tired of lying?

The Flyers have been trending up for 4 seasons. From 29th to 26th to 21st to 19th right now. 1 point out of the WC. If you don’t like a rebuilding team consistently improving, maybe you should stop being a fan.
 

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This is the main issue with the organization. It only values certain skills. They draft players and attempt to mold these guys into slow, methodical grinders irregardless of what abilities they have.
When Giroux was traded he was asked who was the most skilled player on the club now that he was gone. He answered that without a doubt that it was Farabee. Since then we have not seen that play from him since the PTB want him to be a grinding prototype power forward which he is not and never will be. He has wheels and a shot that could be deadly in a fluid offense. Like others, his ability has been wasted here.
A similar thing is happening to MM. Some dunce last week said that Michkov has to change his style of play from the open ice looping and skating style of the KHL. Excuse me; why not create open ice with skating opportunities for the kid? When he gets out there, like last night with TK, exciting things happen.
The organization needs to recognize what successful hockey is in 2024. Draft players that can do those things and stop the decades of suppressing skills.
Huh? What? Since when were they trying to Farabee into a PF?
Foerster yes, and Cates and Couts are both going to the front of the net.

Farabee is more like TK, they showed TK that he needed to get closer to the net, and he did so and his goal scoring went up - but TK doesn't go into the dirty area in front of the blue paint - he tends to lurk to the side, waiting for opportunities. Farabee should do the same, he has really good hands.
 

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Like I said, Hilferty drags their corpses out a couple times a year.
He's big on respecting the past, which isn't the same as living in the past.

But there have been zero stories/rumors etc. about their involvement.
Compare to a few years ago.

Briere obviously values speed more than the Dinos every did.
 

Hollywood Cannon

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Like I said, Hilferty drags their corpses out a couple times a year.
He's big on respecting the past, which isn't the same as living in the past.

But there have been zero stories/rumors etc. about their involvement.
Compare to a few years ago.

Briere obviously values speed more than the Dinos every did.
You have no clue what they do and don’t do.

You’re making up fantasies. No one is barking orders at Holmgren or Clarke in this organization.
 
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deadhead

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You have no clue what they do and don’t do.

You’re making up fantasies. No one is barking orders at Holmgren or Clarke in this organization.
And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
 

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Forgive me

I got bored while between BO6 games :laugh:
Bought the game, and haven't had a chance to play it, the baby doesn't allow me any damn time any more, and her mother has ppd so bad she can't even be near her, so that's not an option either lol

And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
Holmgren is apart of every single draft and scouting meeting, just fyi
 
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And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
You have no idea who is talking to who in this organization on a daily basis, so to pretend you can rationalize your view on the team by inferring it is absolute nonsense. No one has to take seriously the fantasies you keep spinning.
 
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Bought the game, and haven't had a chance to play it, the baby doesn't allow me any damn time any more, and her mother has ppd so bad she can't even be near her, so that's not an option either lol

Best CoD multiplayer in a looooong time.

Hope everything’s going well with the family but you need to knock them out (a small/medium fistful of Benadryl each should do it) and get on the game.
 
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deadhead

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You have no idea who is talking to who in this organization on a daily basis, so to pretend you can rationalize your view on the team by inferring it is absolute nonsense. No one has to take seriously the fantasies you keep spinning.
And there is zero evidence that Holmgren has had any influence on any decision.
Rumors would have hit the internet by now, as they did a few years ago.

Hilferty has said the fossils are welcome (PR), but he's never said they have an actual role.
For one thing, his only relation to them is as a "fanboi", there is no actual history.

Of course Briere would listen politely, but if you don't have authority, it means nothing.
It's more like smiling at Grandpa when he talks about the days real men played hockey.
 

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Best CoD multiplayer in a looooong time.

Hope everything’s going well with the family but you need to knock them out (a small/medium fistful of Benadryl each should do it) and get on the game.
I love my daughter but she needs to sleep through the night badly lol she's almost 10 months old, she went to bed at 8, got up at 950, stayed up til 1, then got up at 3, then went back to bed at 5, was up by 545, and I work from home and take care of the baby all day, so sleep is nonexistent for me, but I used to be so good at cod, every game I was a monster, up until the slide cancel, camera breaking stuff. Now I'm average at best, like the og mw2 I had a 7.4 k/d now I'm like a 1.4
 
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Weird that the team has done absolutely everything perfectly - incredible coaching, fixed the culture, great drafting, great development, great signings/trades - and yet they’re one of the worst teams in the league and haven’t improved at all.
Standings say otherwise.
 

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