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2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

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Magua said:
Do you ever get tired of lying?

The Flyers have been trending up for 4 seasons. From 29th to 26th to 21st to 19th right now. 1 point out of the WC. If you don’t like a rebuilding team consistently improving, maybe you should stop being a fan.
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renberg said:
This is the main issue with the organization. It only values certain skills. They draft players and attempt to mold these guys into slow, methodical grinders irregardless of what abilities they have.
When Giroux was traded he was asked who was the most skilled player on the club now that he was gone. He answered that without a doubt that it was Farabee. Since then we have not seen that play from him since the PTB want him to be a grinding prototype power forward which he is not and never will be. He has wheels and a shot that could be deadly in a fluid offense. Like others, his ability has been wasted here.
A similar thing is happening to MM. Some dunce last week said that Michkov has to change his style of play from the open ice looping and skating style of the KHL. Excuse me; why not create open ice with skating opportunities for the kid? When he gets out there, like last night with TK, exciting things happen.
The organization needs to recognize what successful hockey is in 2024. Draft players that can do those things and stop the decades of suppressing skills.
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Huh? What? Since when were they trying to Farabee into a PF?
Foerster yes, and Cates and Couts are both going to the front of the net.

Farabee is more like TK, they showed TK that he needed to get closer to the net, and he did so and his goal scoring went up - but TK doesn't go into the dirty area in front of the blue paint - he tends to lurk to the side, waiting for opportunities. Farabee should do the same, he has really good hands.
 
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Like I said, Hilferty drags their corpses out a couple times a year.
He's big on respecting the past, which isn't the same as living in the past.

But there have been zero stories/rumors etc. about their involvement.
Compare to a few years ago.

Briere obviously values speed more than the Dinos every did.
 
deadhead said:
Like I said, Hilferty drags their corpses out a couple times a year.
He's big on respecting the past, which isn't the same as living in the past.

But there have been zero stories/rumors etc. about their involvement.
Compare to a few years ago.

Briere obviously values speed more than the Dinos every did.
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You have no clue what they do and don’t do.

You’re making up fantasies. No one is barking orders at Holmgren or Clarke in this organization.
 
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Hollywood Cannon said:
You have no clue what they do and don’t do.

You’re making up fantasies. No one is barking orders at Holmgren or Clarke in this organization.
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And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
 
Striiker said:
Forgive me

I got bored while between BO6 games :laugh:
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Bought the game, and haven't had a chance to play it, the baby doesn't allow me any damn time any more, and her mother has ppd so bad she can't even be near her, so that's not an option either lol

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And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
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Holmgren is apart of every single draft and scouting meeting, just fyi
 
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deadhead said:
And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
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You have no idea who is talking to who in this organization on a daily basis, so to pretend you can rationalize your view on the team by inferring it is absolute nonsense. No one has to take seriously the fantasies you keep spinning.
 
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Kelmitchell2 said:
Bought the game, and haven't had a chance to play it, the baby doesn't allow me any damn time any more, and her mother has ppd so bad she can't even be near her, so that's not an option either lol
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Best CoD multiplayer in a looooong time.

Hope everything’s going well with the family but you need to knock them out (a small/medium fistful of Benadryl each should do it) and get on the game.
 
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freakydallas13 said:
You have no idea who is talking to who in this organization on a daily basis, so to pretend you can rationalize your view on the team by inferring it is absolute nonsense. No one has to take seriously the fantasies you keep spinning.
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And there is zero evidence that Holmgren has had any influence on any decision.
Rumors would have hit the internet by now, as they did a few years ago.

Hilferty has said the fossils are welcome (PR), but he's never said they have an actual role.
For one thing, his only relation to them is as a "fanboi", there is no actual history.

Of course Briere would listen politely, but if you don't have authority, it means nothing.
It's more like smiling at Grandpa when he talks about the days real men played hockey.
 
Striiker said:
Best CoD multiplayer in a looooong time.

Hope everything’s going well with the family but you need to knock them out (a small/medium fistful of Benadryl each should do it) and get on the game.
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I love my daughter but she needs to sleep through the night badly lol she's almost 10 months old, she went to bed at 8, got up at 950, stayed up til 1, then got up at 3, then went back to bed at 5, was up by 545, and I work from home and take care of the baby all day, so sleep is nonexistent for me, but I used to be so good at cod, every game I was a monster, up until the slide cancel, camera breaking stuff. Now I'm average at best, like the og mw2 I had a 7.4 k/d now I'm like a 1.4
 
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ponder719 said:
Standings are unreliable in November. One week ago, we were the 5th worst team in the league; today, we're 14th-worst, on the back of just 3 good games.
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Remember Edmonton last season?
In any sport, the first 1/4 of the season is the "shakeout cruise."

A fast start gives you a cushion, but as the Phillies if it guarantees anything.
 
blackjackmulligan said:
Regardless of what one may think the standings do say otherwise.

I myself do not think this is a good team.
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They'll probably finish right around where they did last year.

Right now on Tankathon, they would have the #12 (William Moore, C), #16 (Jake O'Brien, C) and #18 (Jackson Smith, LHD) picks.

Kinda wish they could get a top 5 pick either organically or through a trade.
 
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If they have 3 picks in the teens, and 3 more picks between 33-44, they're fine.
Heck, if Edmonton and Colorado squeeze into the POs but get knocked out in the 1st or 2nd rd, that'll be fine too.

Gives you the option to move up and down the draft, trade into 2026 or package players/picks in a trade for a young player.

They don't need to hit on all six picks, end up with 3 solid starters and it's a fine draft.
 
Swapping picks with the Oilers from 2024 to 2025 is starting to look like a good gamble. Now of course, now that I say this they are guaranteed to win the Cup.
 
deadhead said:
And there is zero evidence that Holmgren has had any influence on any decision.
Rumors would have hit the internet by now, as they did a few years ago.

Hilferty has said the fossils are welcome (PR), but he's never said they have an actual role.
For one thing, his only relation to them is as a "fanboi", there is no actual history.

Of course Briere would listen politely, but if you don't have authority, it means nothing.
It's more like smiling at Grandpa when he talks about the days real men played hockey.
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You also have no evidence that proves Homer, Clarke, or the other advisers aren't directly involved, so posting to the contrary is just indulging in your own personal fantasy.
 
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deadhead said:
There is no "they." That's conspiracy theory type talk. "Those people."

Couts started out as an 18 year old on a deep team, then he was behind Giroux as the 1C, and competed with Schenn as the 2C. Given the lack of forward depth after 2012, G got the best forwards and Couts and Schenn competed for the "scrubs".
2014: Voracek and Simmonds on the 1st line, Read, Raffl, Umberger, Vinnie the next forwards.
2015: replace Umberger and Vinnie with Gagner and VdV
It was moving G to LW that allowed C to center a scoring line, not some plot against him.

AV was the one who didn't like Ghost, partially due to his style of play, but also b/c he needed time to adjust to his loss of speed after having both knees scoped.

Sanheim played on PP2 his first two full seasons, behind Ghost.
Ghost, Gustaffson and Provorov played ahead of him in 2020-21.
York and Yandle in 2021-22, TDA & York in 2022-23, Drysdale & York last season, but Sanheim still averaged 1:31.

Laughton plays center b/c of lack of centers, last year it was Laughton or Cates. This year Laughton is better than Frost or Cates so far.

We'll see if they made the right move between Jett and Buium. Both were areas of need, so they must have really liked Jett. He does fit what they want. They kept Luchanko on the roster to reward him for coming to camp prepared and give him a taste of the NHL. I doubt they were "trying to justify the selection," things this board obsesses over are probably ignored by most fans.

The real problem has been lack of talent depth (problem since 2012) due to Hextall's bad drafting in 2017 and 2018 and CF trading away too many first and second rd picks.
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"They" is management. You know, the same crowd of scouts, advisors, and leadership who have been around for upwards of 50 years.

They exist. They're employed by the team. They make the decisions and set the culture and the priorities. The team lists all of them on the website.

The weird thing is pretending "they" don't exist or have nothing to do with the team now.
 
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deadhead said:
And I doubt anyone is taking orders from them either.
Nothing they've done fits the MO of Clarke and Holmgren.
Holmgren would have shipped out a 1st rd pick for a veteran center by now.
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Their insistence on treating players like crap and favoring ego games over them doesn't fit the MO of Clarke? Getting mad about players daring to assert their CBA-given rights and holding grudges doesn't fit the MO of Clarke? Throwing players under the bus in the media doesn't fit the MO of Clarke? Their generation-spanning inability to assess dmen and refusal to change doesn't fit the MO of any previous management groups? Their lust for grinding over skill doesn't fit Clarke?


Either you aren't being serious or you've completely forgotten this team's history prior to 2024.
 
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