2024-25 Roster Thread #1: The Beginninging

[FLYguy3911]

He took some Chel type hits last night.

 

[deadhead]

Does that mean it was a rebuild from 2017-2020, when almost all these players were picked? Seems disingenuous! There's Michkov, and then there's Luchanko (youngest player in team history skewing that), for whom no rebuilding team would ever burn an ELC year in his D+1.

You could play an entire team of 18-22 year olds, but it doesn't make it a successful rebuild. The Sharks are older than the Avs. It's noise.

York #14-2019
Brink #39-2019
Foerster #23-2020
Andrae #54-2020
Michkov #7-2023
Luchanko #13-2024
Tippett, Drysdale (Gauthier #5-2022) post 2018 trades.

2021 was the worst draft, starting with trading #1, Tuomaala, Kolosov
2022, Bump, McDonald
2023, Bonk, Bjarnason, Zavragin, Barkey, Ciernak, Sotheran

The problem was neither Hextall or CF was trying to rebuild.
The scouts haven't been the problem, a FO without a coherent strategy was the problem.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

York #14-2019
Brink #39-2019
Foerster #23-2020
Andrae #54-2020
Michkov #7-2023
Luchanko #13-2024
Tippett, Drysdale (Gauthier #5-2022) post 2018 trades.

2021 was the worst draft, starting with trading #1, Tuomaala, Kolosov
2022, Bump, McDonald
2023, Bonk, Bjarnason, Zavragin, Barkey, Ciernak, Sotheran

The problem was neither Hextall or CF was trying to rebuild.
The scouts haven't been the problem, a FO without a coherent strategy was the problem.

Sure they have to an extent. No real gems outside the 1st rd. No unearthed studs.

 

[deadhead]

Sure they have to an extent. No real gems outside the 1st rd. No unearthed studs.

How often does any team find a "gem" outside the 1st rd?
I mean it happens, but it's also rare. Like two in a hundred picks from 33-100, maybe one in a hundred picks from 101 to the end of the draft.
If Errson is a starting goalie, or Zavragin . . .

 

[blackjackmulligan]

How often does any team find a "gem" outside the 1st rd?
I mean it happens, but it's also rare. Like two in a hundred picks from 33-100, maybe one in a hundred picks from 101 to the end of the draft.
If Errson is a starting goalie, or Zavragin . . .

Not talking about or concerned with other teams. The Flyers is the topic of conversation.

When the if's become facts then we can use those as examples. Sam is at a minimum a solid NHL goalie.

Go compare the teams in the division for starters from say 2010-2021 and see how many outside the 1st rd have been NHL players for an extended period.

 

[usahockey22flyers]

He took some Chel type hits last night.

WHEN HEALTHY...

Drysdale flashes a truly high ceiling every game. Watch 60 minutes and you will see these little glimpses.

Drysdale also frequently has some mental mistakes, shows no confidence, and runs around aimlessly in his own zone too.

The ability is there - he's so damn gifted, but not looking great so far to be a top 4 D.

 

[Cody Webster]

I saw Andrae was called up the other night, how did he look against Calgary?

 

[Fire Tortorella]

I saw Andrae was called up the other night, how did he look against Calgary?

Didn't make any glaring mistakes in the press box.

 

[Cody Webster]

Didn't make any glaring mistakes in the press box.

Oh weird. According to some here, I thought the youth wasn't going to be blocked by old scrubs like 97 year old Erik Johnson

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Oh weird. According to some here, I thought the youth wasn't going to be blocked by old scrubs like 97 year old Erik Johnson

EJ is one of 15 former 1st rd picks on this roster. Show some respect.

 

[Flyer lurker]

Oh weird. According to some here, I thought the youth wasn't going to be blocked by old scrubs like 97 year old Erik Johnson

Just like Marc Staal
and the former 44 day one signing

 

[TheKingPin]

Feel like we could have already traded Hathaway for a 1st to Buffalo.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

Feel like we could have already traded Hathaway for a 1st to Buffalo.

Buff has NAK (hurt at the moment). No need for GH.

You cant be serious about getting a 1st for him, from anyone.

 

[Curufinwe]

Some real dumb f***s on twitter mad about TK playing the right side. It doesn’t make sense to have him and Michkov on the same line anyway

Tippett-Frost-Michkov
Foerster-Couturier-Konecny
Farabee-Laughton/Luchanko-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway

 

[VladDrag]

@Magua

https://x.com/i/web/status/1845952547233644592

 

[Adtar02]

Some real dumb f***s on twitter mad about TK playing the right side. It doesn’t make sense to have him and Michkov on the same line anyway

Tippett-Frost-Michkov
Foerster-Couturier-Konecny
Farabee-Laughton/Luchanko-Brink
Cates-Poehling-Hathaway

I don’t want tippet with Michkov. Rather see farabee or forester. Farabee has played well with brink. Give them coots. And forest to frost and Michkov. Put the smart players together.

 

[Curufinwe]

If the Flyers scratch Luchanko for the next back to back game in Washington on the 23rd, his 9th game would be October 31st at home to the Blues. So the 10th game that would start his ELC would be November 2nd at home to the Bruins.

 

[VladDrag]

If the Flyers scratch Luchanko for the next back to back game in Washington on the 23rd, his 9th game would be October 31st at home to the Blues. So the 10th game that would start his ELC would be November 2nd at home to the Bruins.

Is it team games of games played that counts against his 9 game trial?

 

[mr figgles]

Is it team games of games played that counts against his 9 game trial?

According to Puckpedia it’s his individual games played.

https://puckpedia.com/entry-level-slides

 

[VladDrag]

According to Puckpedia it’s his individual games played.

https://puckpedia.com/entry-level-slides

thank you

 

[Curufinwe]

Yeah, it's GP by the player.

Sometimes teams will keep a kid for two months but only play him 9 games.

 

[deadhead]

I think he'll stick through the six game homestand (that would put him at 9 games), then they'll make a decision.

 

[blackjackmulligan]

I think he'll stick through the six game homestand (that would put him at 9 games), then they'll make a decision.

Unless he just plays like total crap, he is staying imo.

 

[renberg]

What is the scene with the Guelph team? Are they bad and keeping Luchanko in Philly is better for his development than being with Guelph and playing in the OHL?

 

[deadhead]

They're still pretty bad, only 2 draft picks on the current roster
Alriksson F #107-2023
Cam Allen D #123-2023
McFadden (17), McKenzie (17), Namestnikov (20), McLean (16), McGuire (20), Paquette (18), Stevens (16), Karabela (20) are the top scoring forwards so far.

So it might be better in a year, but it's not a great group of forwards to play with right now.