Boston Bruins 2024-25 Roster and Salary Cap Discussion II

[wintersej]

So Daily Faceoff had contract projections for the top 75 UFA's. Looking at the top 10 LHD to bump Wotherspoon down you have

Skjei and Zadorov - likely way too expensive for us
Ghost and Gustafsson - offensive guys that aren't much of a fit with Lohrei being that
OEL, Dillon, Brodie - getting term and likely 3 million +
Cole, Martinez, Edmundson - vets likely getting 1 year under 2 million

I think if they can get Brenden Dillon on a reasonable contract, he's the best fit of the bunch but realistically those three vets all make really good options IMO. All have cup experience.

I both think they need to add some nasty on that remaining LD slot and am not sure how it fits at the same time. Peeke and Carlo both are below average with the puck. I think we all just saw how being good at defending but defending all the time can turn out. Dillon is also who I gave circled, but is a Dillon/Peeke pairing too samey?

I keep playing with the idea of Carlo/Necas and having a Casey or Spence be part of the Ullmark return.

Something like:

Lindholm McAvoy
Lorhei Peeke
Dillon Casey/Pence
Wotherspoon

Leaves you with something like:

Zacha Necas Pastrnak
Marchand ??? ???
Frederic Coyle Geekie
Beecher Boqvist Brazeau
Lauko

And around 10 million to fill in. And if you follow MMBs thinking with maybe putting Coyle out there, you can bring back Heinen or let the kids fight over a 3rd line spot and get yourself to a point where you could afford Lindholm and DeBrusk/Marchessault for those spots. Or maybe you keep Coyle at 2C until Poitras is ready, and try to add someone high end with that cash. Obviously, these 42 moves in a chain thing are dicey to pull off, but I do think it speaks to the kind of flexibility Sweeney can have if he decides to get aggressive in re-shaping things.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I both think they need to add some nasty on that remaining LD slot and am not sure how it fits at the same time. Peeke and Carlo both are below average with the puck. I think we all just saw how being good at defending but defending all the time can turn out. Dillon is also who I gave circled, but is a Dillon/Peeke pairing too samey?

I keep playing with the idea of Carlo/Necas and having a Casey or Spence be part of the Ullmark return.

Something like:

Lindholm McAvoy
Lorhei Peeke
Dillon Casey/Pence
Wotherspoon

Leaves you with something like:

Zacha Necas Pastrnak
Marchand ??? ???
Frederic Coyle Geekie
Beecher Boqvist Brazeau
Lauko

And around 10 million to fill in. And if you follow MMBs thinking with maybe putting Coyle out there, you can bring back Heinen or let the kids fight over a 3rd line spot and get yourself to a point where you could afford Lindholm and DeBrusk/Marchessault for those spots. Obviously, these 42 moves in a chain thing are dicey to pull off, but I do think it speaks to the kind of flexibility Sweeney can have if he decides to get aggressive in re-shaping things.

Peeke as a top 4, PK1 guy is a disaster waiting to happen.

 

[Lord Ahriman]

I both think they need to add some nasty on that remaining LD slot and am not sure how it fits at the same time. Peeke and Carlo both are below average with the puck. I think we all just saw how being good at defending but defending all the time can turn out. Dillon is also who I gave circled, but is a Dillon/Peeke pairing too samey?

I keep playing with the idea of Carlo/Necas and having a Casey or Spence be part of the Ullmark return.

Something like:

Lindholm McAvoy
Lorhei Peeke
Dillon Casey/Pence
Wotherspoon

Leaves you with something like:

Zacha Necas Pastrnak
Marchand ??? ???
Frederic Coyle Geekie
Beecher Boqvist Brazeau
Lauko

And around 10 million to fill in. And if you follow MMBs thinking with maybe putting Coyle out there, you can bring back Heinen or let the kids fight over a 3rd line spot and get yourself to a point where you could afford Lindholm and DeBrusk/Marchessault for those spots. Or maybe you keep Coyle at 2C until Poitras is ready, and try to add someone high end with that cash. Obviously, these 42 moves in a chain thing are dicey to pull off, but I do think it speaks to the kind of flexibility Sweeney can have if he decides to get aggressive in re-shaping things.

Lindholm/McAvoy was never a good pair that's exactly why they moved him to the second pair alongside Carlo and Peeke as a top 4 is just a disaster in the making. Our defense wasn't any good, but Carlo was our best dman, imo. That's why I really doubt they would trade him.

 

[Colt.45Orr]

Carlo wasn't nearly as good as McAvoy. The coaching staff would've upped his mins if he was.

 

[DKH]

Zacha smoking people today in World Finals- keep him on the wing

 

[bbfan419]

Watching him at the World Championships talk about a heartless, gutless player. I don't think I've seen him skate hard once. Your not getting any snarl out of him, he literally brings nothing to the table.

Makes me wish he would have chosen Montreal and they would have massively overpaid to get him.

 

[wintersej]

Lindholm/McAvoy was never a good pair that's exactly why they moved him to the second pair alongside Carlo and Peeke as a top 4 is just a disaster in the making. Our defense wasn't any good, but Carlo was our best dman, imo. That's why I really doubt they would trade him.

Rantanen said it was the best pairing in the NHL.

Carlo is clearly their best one on one defender and one of the best in the game. But he gives back a lot of value the other way at 5 on 5 and burying Lindholm like he is with Carlo has clearly muted some of what Lindholm can bring.

I’m not meaning to toot the trade Carlo horn here, but I also think that not leaving every stone unturned is limiting.

 

[bbfan419]

Even in a must win game yesterday he looked like he was just going through the motions. How he got a reputation as some power forward is beyond me.

I couldn't believe they told Fantilli (who was on last year's gold medal team), to go home and brought a loser like PLD along.

Tourigny is also a horrible coach, he had Bedard as the 13th forward and in one game Bedard had 2 goals and late in the game Canada had a PP, yet he did not put Bedard out there to try for the hat trick.

 

[bbfan419]

Good news for me, I hate the SOB, so will be very happy to continue to hate the SOB. they should keep Max Domi as well, so they continue to have a collection of the most unlikeable POS players in the league

They now have a coach to match them.

 

[TorontLoL 67]

All this talk of Necas is giving me the Hertl talk vibes. Keeping my expectations low, we all know how this plays out.

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Rantanen said it was the best pairing in the NHL.

Carlo is clearly their best one on one defender and one of the best in the game. But he gives back a lot of value the other way at 5 on 5 and burying Lindholm like he is with Carlo has clearly muted some of what Lindholm can bring.

I’m not meaning to toot the trade Carlo horn here, but I also think that not leaving every stone unturned is limiting.

McAvoy with Lindholm and Carlo with Lohrei should be the permanent pairings.

 

[DKH]

All this talk of Necas is giving me the Hertl talk vibes. Keeping my expectations low, we all know how this plays out.

my guys For Bruins
Eichel - Vegas
Hertl - Vegas
Hanifin - Vegas
Necas -

 

[goldenblack]

The trading Carlo at his number talk is some of the worst talk on this board - especially with the playoffs he just had - and that’s saying something.

YES!

honestly we're rock bottom here

 

[GordonHowe]

Also from Globe:

The status quo Bruins let it be known Wednesday that they have no plans to rework the coaching staff. Baffling. Poor bench management led to a record seven penalties for too many men on the ice. “Way too many to have happen, no question about it,” said president Cam Neely. They also had horrendous starts in three of their 13 playoff games: Game 5 vs Toronto: two shots in the opening 20:00; Game 6 vs. Toronto: one shot in the opening 20:00. Game 3 vs. Florida: three shots in the opening 20:00. Not engaged from the opening puck drop, they lost all three games. Overall, it showed a severe need for better in-game bench management and an inexcusable lack of readiness to start games on time at the most important time of the season. “We haven’t finished our revision of last year,” said bench boss Jim Montgomery on Wednesday. “But as it stands right now, there is no imminent change in our mind.”

Baffling indeed.

Montgomery also confessed (after G7) to possessing a "vapid brain."

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

YES!

honestly we're rock bottom here

Don’t tempt fate like that

 

[GordonHowe]

An Old And A New Free Agent Target For The Bruins

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EL is 29. Chandler Stephenson is 30.

I would try to land Necas. He's just 25.

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[wintersej]

The trading Carlo at his number talk is some of the worst talk on this board - especially with the playoffs he just had - and that’s saying something.

OK

 

[BigGoalBrad]

Zacha smoking people today in World Finals- keep him on the wing

Glad the Czechs won after being snubbed on the 4 country tournament next winter at the Garden and in Toronto. Are you getting a line or first dibs on tickets as a STH have they said anything about it yet?

 

[DKH]

Glad the Czechs won after being snubbed on the 4 country tournament next winter at the Garden and in Toronto. Are you getting a line or first dibs on tickets as a STH have they said anything about it yet?

Not sure but I’ll go if offered

 

[BruinDust]

Tourigny is also a horrible coach, he had Bedard as the 13th forward and in one game Bedard had 2 goals and late in the game Canada had a PP, yet he did not put Bedard out there to try for the hat trick.

Had PLD out there in OT on a 4 on 3 PP. Again in the shoot-out. Not sure what Tourigny is thinking there.

 

[BruinDust]

Glad the Czechs won after being snubbed on the 4 country tournament next winter at the Garden and in Toronto. Are you getting a line or first dibs on tickets as a STH have they said anything about it yet?

Hard to take that tournament seriously when none of Pasta, Draisaitl, Kucherov, Panarin, or Kaprizov will be there. 3 of the Top 5 scorers this year, 4 of the Top 7 and 5 of the Top 11.

 

[bbfan419]

Had PLD out there in OT on a 4 on 3 PP. Again in the shoot-out. Not sure what Tourigny is thinking there.

Yeah not sure either, he seemed to have his favorites.

 

[Fenian24]

Lindholm is just too risky for me, go after Necas hard and re-sign Jake. Grab Stephenson if it’s a reasonable price and get a bottom pairing guy to push Wotherspoon to 7.

Awesome, who's playing center on line 1or 2? I like Stephenson, I have no real desire to see DeBrusk back.

 

[Fenian24]

They now have a coach to match them.

I take Berube over Monty everyday of the week.

 

[I am Bettman]

Awesome, who's playing center on line 1or 2? I like Stephenson, I have no real desire to see DeBrusk back.

Assuming Necas is a wing, and I know this is unpopular, Coyle and Zacha. I don’t think that running those two is an issue if they have very strong wingers. Marchand, Necas, Pastrnak, and one of Debrusk or Stephenson makes an incredible winger group. I believe that the Bruin’s issue was not necessarily center depth (though not ideal), but rather top six talent overall. Think of a top six that looks like:
Marchand-Coyle-Necas
Stephenson/Debrusk-Zacha-Pastrnak
I am frustrated with Debrusk, but I don’t care how streaky he is during the regular season if he can continue to bring it in the playoffs. Depends on the number for him.