Hawkaholic
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He has acquired a ton of 1st round draft picks, that's young talent. Remember when Stanley tried to acquire young NHL "talent"? Doesn't always work out.
2024-25 Roster…too soon?
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TheFridge
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The "young talent" in question are mid-lineup players who are about to be 25 and 26-years-old by seasons end.
They are Anthony Beauvillier's, a player Davidson acquired quite literally just last year.
ColbyChaos
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Hattrick Kane
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Still hoping Stan is a moron and wants Murphy despite being a corpse.
Kevin Musto
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Kevin Musto
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Adding young forward talent to the future core
At the deadline:
Trade Ryan Donato + Jason Dickinson (@50% retention) to Toronto for Fraser Minten
Minten is 20, plays center, skates well, and adds size to the lineup (6'2" 190lbs).
In the offseason:
Trade Seth Jones to Florida for Mackie Samoskevich
Samoskevich is 22, a high skill player, and one of the best skaters in the league.
2025-2026 lineup:
Bertuzzi-Bedard-Nazar
Teravainen-Minten-Samoskevich
Lardis-Greene-Mikheyev
Slaggert-Reichel-Foligno
Dach
Vlasic-Crevier
Korchinski-Murphy
Allan-Del Mastro
Brodie
Soderblom
Brossoit?
Mrazek
Ignore the big ticket UFAs that won't fit the timeline. Let the kids play.
At the deadline:
Trade Ryan Donato + Jason Dickinson (@50% retention) to Toronto for Fraser Minten
Minten is 20, plays center, skates well, and adds size to the lineup (6'2" 190lbs).
In the offseason:
Trade Seth Jones to Florida for Mackie Samoskevich
Samoskevich is 22, a high skill player, and one of the best skaters in the league.
2025-2026 lineup:
Bertuzzi-Bedard-Nazar
Teravainen-Minten-Samoskevich
Lardis-Greene-Mikheyev
Slaggert-Reichel-Foligno
Dach
Vlasic-Crevier
Korchinski-Murphy
Allan-Del Mastro
Brodie
Soderblom
Brossoit?
Mrazek
Ignore the big ticket UFAs that won't fit the timeline. Let the kids play.
ColbyChaos
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Kevin Musto
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Shit draft classYes let’s try our best to make the Toronto first even later
Who cares?
Didn't you whine all last season that KK was brought to NHL too soon. Now you have practically every prospect in NHL.
TheFridge
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I've always been a Greene fan but there's no chance he's ready for the NHL next year. Same for Lardis.
You realize that lineup would be around 12M below the cap floor.
Kevin Musto
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What about these:
1. To Hawks: Nemec. To NJ: Kaiser, Athansiou (Hawks cover all salary) and a 4th round pick
2. To Hawks: Lafferty To Buffalo: Kurashev Change of scenery deal
1. To Hawks: Nemec. To NJ: Kaiser, Athansiou (Hawks cover all salary) and a 4th round pick
2. To Hawks: Lafferty To Buffalo: Kurashev Change of scenery deal
The Devils would never do that. They'd be giving up a recent 2OA pick for a decent young defensemen who wouldn't be able to crack their lineup, a forward who currently can't crack the lineup of the second worst team in the league, and a 4th round pick. Plus I don't know how the Hawks could cover all of a player's salary in a trade.
I think we overestimate Kaiser's value to other teams. Yes, he's a solid young defensemen but doesn't do anything all that well and he's left handed. I can't think of too many teams that would give up that much for him because I think there are a lot of guys just like him around the league. Crazy thing though as if he were the exact same player but right handed, we wouldn't want to trade him but we could probably get a 3rd, maybe even a 2nd for him.
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Jersey says no thanks.
Second one maybe but don’t think Buffalo needs a reclamation project in Phil.
Callidusblackhawk
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I'm pretty sure New Jersey never takes the Hawks calls again after hearing that offer.
Nemec is inches from requesting a trade out of Jersey due to depth. How about we swap Athansiou and the 4th and add Donato to Kaiser?
Look at Jiricek as a trade comp, should they want draft picks back. Don’t think Donato and Kaiser gets us Simon
CallMeShaft
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That's not close to enough value for a recent 2nd overall, even with Nemec's recent disdain for Devils management.
And why bother acquiring him? The future right side D is shaping up to be Lev, Rinzel, and potentially Crevier. If we were missing one or both of Lev/Rinzel, then sure, try to make a trade for Nemec. But Hawks spent our own 2nd overall pick on a RHD a year ago. We spent a late 1st on Rinzel, who's been excelling these past two seasons in the NCAA. So I don't see why we'd trade assets just to make it harder for them to make this team in the future.
Do you want our own 2nd overall RHD not to have a spot on this roster in 2 years and be looking for a trade? Would this just become a never ending pattern of RHDs selected 2nd overall not having a roster spot on the team that drafted them, forcing their team to trade them to a different team that picked a more recent RHD 2nd overall, and having that RHD requesting a trade to another team that picked an RHD at 2nd overall?
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Acquiring picks isn't the same as acquiring young players like Kakko or Askarov. I specifically spoke about the PhI/CGY trade.
Enough with the strawman.
WarriorofTime
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Believe they’ll have another season of waiver exemption since he started his elc after his college season
Darkstar
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If we're trading for someone like Nemec, it would have to be for Seth Jones, either directly or in a three team scenario. Mid prospects and grinders aren't even close to a reasonable proposal.
