Kevin Musto
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I literally forgot it was that low. I was like "he signed for 6M per, right? That seems right..."
2024-25 Roster…too soon?
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Callidusblackhawk
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lol same I had forgotten about that contract extension entirely until I saw your post.
cassac
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It is good to see that you changed your opinion on Vlasic (not that he left you a choice). Now if you would realize what Strome is!
TLEH
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Chicago GM Kyle Davidson continues to make his calls around the league, and it’s clear from what we’re hearing from other front offices that he’s looking around for a top-six forward and perhaps a middle-six forward, too.
There’s a desire to upgrade the group and give Connor Bedard more offensive support.
There was a rumor floating around that the Hawks were considering taking a look at suspended star forward Valeri Nichushkinfrom the Colorado Avalanche, but I’m told they’re not interested. Just too much unknown and risk for their liking.
But as mentioned above, Necas is among the many possibilities on the trade market. The Hawks have also targeted some UFAs on the July 1 market. They’ve got the salary-cap room to be aggressive, but at the same time, I think they want to be careful they don’t do something that gets in the way of having room to take care of their younger core in a few years.
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There’s a desire to upgrade the group and give Connor Bedard more offensive support.
There was a rumor floating around that the Hawks were considering taking a look at suspended star forward Valeri Nichushkinfrom the Colorado Avalanche, but I’m told they’re not interested. Just too much unknown and risk for their liking.
But as mentioned above, Necas is among the many possibilities on the trade market. The Hawks have also targeted some UFAs on the July 1 market. They’ve got the salary-cap room to be aggressive, but at the same time, I think they want to be careful they don’t do something that gets in the way of having room to take care of their younger core in a few years.
- LeBrun today.
MicronMega
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Kevin Musto
Hard for Bedard
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It wouldn't happen but I'd swap 2nd overall + Reichel for 4th overall + Laine
Blackhawkswincup
RIP Fugu
WTF would you do that? Hawks give away better pick and young LW for lesser pick and a major ?
A very costly major question mark
$8.7M cap hit over next 2 years and the contract was backloaded so actual cost
24-25 = $2M signing bonus + $7.1M salary = $9.1M
25-26 = $2M signing bonus + $7.1M salary = $9.1M
$18.1M in actual cost for Laine the next 2 years
If Hawks take on Laine its not downgrading pick and giving away Reichel in process
AA for Laine is chance you take if your ownership is willing to greenlight eating cost/risks
Kevin Musto
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Laine > Reichel
No difference between 2nd and 4th in this year's draft.
Win for Chicago.
Crow
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Guy has a completely irrational hatred of Reichel is why. Wants him off the team no matter what it costs even though he still holds value. It’s one of many absurd themes he clings on to. I don’t know why I still like @Kevin Musto but I do.
DisgruntledHawkFan
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You continuing to care about real dollars for the Wirtz family is really odd.
The Laine thing...wow, I'm conflicted.
On one side, he comes off as a 'moody' player who blows hot and cold and when he's disinterested is a total passenger. Then...the injuries. Yikes.
Now, that said, when he's on and engaged is a top tier elite goal scorer, and has some physicality/size to his game. Right shot, plays both wings (some c iirc), and although hes been around, is only 25.
The bonus here is that the contract timing lines up, too. We are out from it by the time Bedard hits whatever jackpot he's going to, so it give us 2 'dip the toe' in years to see if it's viable long term bc cash/cap hit in the short term is basically irrelevant.
I pursue this more then Guentzel/Marner tbh.
My big question would be acquisition cost. I've talked myself into being interested, but wouldn't sell a top 10 pick.
On one side, he comes off as a 'moody' player who blows hot and cold and when he's disinterested is a total passenger. Then...the injuries. Yikes.
Now, that said, when he's on and engaged is a top tier elite goal scorer, and has some physicality/size to his game. Right shot, plays both wings (some c iirc), and although hes been around, is only 25.
The bonus here is that the contract timing lines up, too. We are out from it by the time Bedard hits whatever jackpot he's going to, so it give us 2 'dip the toe' in years to see if it's viable long term bc cash/cap hit in the short term is basically irrelevant.
I pursue this more then Guentzel/Marner tbh.
My big question would be acquisition cost. I've talked myself into being interested, but wouldn't sell a top 10 pick.
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Taze em
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I’d just like to say… with Guentzel, Marner, and Laine all easily gettable if you’re motivated… tell me again how you draft a skilled winger instead of a skilled RHD.
Take what you know about these players availability year after year after year and bring it on over to the draft talk thread.
Take what you know about these players availability year after year after year and bring it on over to the draft talk thread.
Blackhawkswincup
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Just being realistic
Ownership would need to approve a major move like that given Laine history of injuries, part of assistance program, etc
And the real $ owed to Laine will be major part of trade discussions with regard to teams interested in him
Toews2Bickell
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IMO - better to make it a smaller deal for just Laine. Don't see CLB willing to move off 4OA to move Laine's & Gubrandsson's salary.
The combination of high salary, injuries, and reduced production make Laine's value minimal IMO. Not sure what would be required, but I would think that it would be limited.
Hawkaholic
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MicronMega
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Columbus is the team that would need to give up in this trade. Laine has underachieved and been a healthy scratch by his last two coaches. Chicago would be getting assets or value in taking on Laine with that big of a contract. This is more of a disgruntled salary dump than adding a player of value. My original offer gives CLB some value with Murph at 50% and takes on Laine and Gudbransson. The cost to do both would be adding the 4th OA pick which would cost this years 18 OA and next years TOR 1st Rd pick.
Kevin Musto
Hard for Bedard
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Not sure why you're equating Laine to a 7th round pick.
There are question marks around the completeness of his game, sure, but he'd be by far the 2nd best forward on the Blackhawks roster.
I'd have fun watching him play with Bedard.
I'm moreso saying the "there's no difference between the 2nd and 4th this year" is wrong than anything about Laine.
ChicagoHockeyFan
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For me bottom line is we need top line forwards and Guentzel is the most sure thing now and for near future, he’s gonna cost a ton but we have the space and if it puts us in cap he’ll in 6 years it’s probably a good problem to have because that most likely means Moore Nazar Korch have taken huge steps
TLEH
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Pesce is available. Shea Theodore is likely available. Petro got traded. Erik Karlsson got traded multiple times.
The truly premier players (if healthy) barely move in their prime, regardless of position.
Taze em
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Add Jones. That’s four in what…five years?
Centers and RHD. You have them or you don’t. And it’s the difference between being Toronto or Edmonton and a winning team.
