BarDownBobo
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I hope they can get him signed, he and Wakely jumping to Bakersfield would be a nice addition of actual prospects to that lineup for next year.
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Bryanbryoil
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Wakely IMO is a longer term project as his skating didn't look that great in camp.
BarDownBobo
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Agreed, he is an overage in the OHL this year though so he’ll be moving to the pros next year no matter what.
Fourier
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He and Lachance could be dark horse prospects. Lachance is very interesting to me. He seems like much more than a coke machine.
The knock on him is his skating but we have seen many examples of guys who have put in the effort and improved their skating immensely. Interestingly enough he was named Captain of both his USHL team and now BU as a sophomore. So it seems like he has the leadership skills that often go hand in hand with drive to improve.
From what I can gather Lachance played very well with Celebrini, opening up lots of time and space for him. It seems Lachance is also a significant force in front of the net. (Maybe he will become the Oilers new Tim Kerr! Kerr was another big skilled guy who actually went undrafted because of his skating and unlike Lachance because he was seen as lazy. Kind of the anti-Zach Hyman.) McDavid has Hyman, maybe Lachance will be that guy for Leon but at a slower speed.
I'd be very curious to hear more from you guys who have watched BU play.
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Soli
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Connor Clattenburg with a goal and an assist, both on the PP. The assist was a OZ face-off win, didn't include video.
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Sam O'Reilly posted a goal and three assists. He goes into the New Years as a point-per-game prospect in his D+1 OHL season.
William Nicholl has missed the last two London games with an illness.
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Sam O'Reilly posted a goal and three assists. He goes into the New Years as a point-per-game prospect in his D+1 OHL season.
William Nicholl has missed the last two London games with an illness.
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Soli
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Did some sleuthing in the London Knights thread.
Seems to just be illness. Recovered from cross check sustained December 20th that he left the game early for.
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Fourier
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O'Reilly has 22 points in his last 14 games. He has also only been a negative in +/- once in his last 27 games.
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His numbers this year with have to be looked at with the understanding that he’s on an insanely stacked junior team. There just aren’t as many offensive minutes available when Cowan, Halttunen, Dickinson, and Bonk are back in the lineup.
Fourier
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Absolutely, and several of us have said this all along. The fact that when these players are not there his numbers improve markedly is a big indicator that context matters.
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Soli
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Sam O'Reilly had a nice goal at the side of the net on the PP. He left in the 1st after falling awkwardly on his right shoulder, but came back out for the second and scored later in the game.
William Nicholl returned to the lineup.
William Nicholl returned to the lineup.
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Canada would've been better off sending him instead of Cowan.
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From what I recall, O'Reilly had a strong first pro camp. That means something to me. Too many so called big time prospects ripping it up in junior and then shit the bed when they get exposed to bigger, stronger, faster players and more complicated systems and get overwhelmed, and in some cases, find out their game and skill set is just not applicable to the pros.
Stud Muffin
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I quite like Cowan and think he’s getting some pretty shitty hate right now, the management and coaching deserve that.
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He did not look good against Latvia at all. Seems like the kind of guy who thinks he is the whole show. Pass the puck kid. You’re not all that.
I missed the last ten minutes of the US/Canada game. But based on the flow of play during first two periods I think Canada deserved a better fate. Took stupid penalties but they had many chances to score. On most nights some of those would have probably gone in.
I think the team misses Schaefer a lot. I honestly have not been impressed by Bonk at all. And Dickinson has been a mixed bag imo. The kid can carry the puck for sure, but he’s come away with nothing on a bunch of glorious chances because he can’t get his shot through or he misses the net.
I’ll echo some others who have wondered why Akey isn’t getting more minutes. Bonk doesn’t need to be playing 22 minutes.
I think Cowan is a limited player. Coaching should take the blame having him as the team's offensive catalyst over a plethora of better players left at home.
But the way Cowan has played at this tournament warrants the criticism. The last five minutes of the US game only magnified it.
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SOR seems like the player that performs better in a structured pro system versus a juniors system.
Fourier
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He's also pretty young as well. He won't turn 19 until near the end of March. For a kid that age to show a mature pro style game in camp is pretty encouraging.
I've said this before but I think that the Oilers prospect pool is being under appreciated because aside from possibly Savoie they lack that high end marquee name. But unlike a lot of bottom tier teams that need their hot shot prospects to lead the team, the Oilers don't need that. They only need guy to fill worker-bee or complementary roles. Sam O'Reilly for example does not have to be a top six center. A defensively responsible #3C with some offense on an ELC would be a huge plus.
Centers:
O'Reilly #3/4C **
Philp #4C **
Clattenbrurg #4C ?? (more likely a winger)
Wingers:
Savoie Top six RW. **
Roby Jarventie Bottom 6 LW **
Maxim Berezkin Middle six RW/LW *
Shane Lachance Middle six LW *
William Nicholl Middle six LW (Maybe #3C with real luck)
Matvey Petrov #3/4 RW
Connor Clattenburg #4LW
Dalyn Wakely bottom 6 RW
Jacob Perrault middle six RW
Defense:
Beau Akey #2/3RHD **
Paul Fischer #3LHD *
Max Wanner #3RHD Seventh defensman
Luca Munzenberger #3 LHD Seventh defenseman
Goalies:
Olivier Rodrigues #2 *
Sam Jonsson #2
Eemil Vinni #2
** solid possibility to fulfill the role
* reasonable possibility to fulfill the role.
no stars: Could happen with some luck.
Definitely not an exciting prospect pool. But Realistically the Oilers only need about 4-5 guys from this list to simply become NHL'ers over the next 3-5 years. Anything beyond that would be gravy.
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I mean, that’s why it’s being under appreciated and lower ranked. There are definitely some guys who will be NHL players there, but the lack of high end guys or any potential high end guys outside of like Savoie is definitely an organizational weakness. You need prospects to either fill spots when you move guys for cap OR guys who can be valuable in a trade. And really that’s what the pool is missing.
Stud Muffin
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I wouldn't call a player limited just because he's not a star player, I believe there is a roll for him on the team, but should never have been as the primary driving force of offense. He's also playing with a guy who IMO is better served as a winger in Ritchie, There's just so many roster construction issues i have with this team, i don't even know where to start.
McJadeddog
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It certainly isn't a negative, that is for certain. By all accounts I've read, his game is pretty mature for a young guy, and has the potential to be a good 3rd line 200 ft player in the bigs. This may come at the expense of high end offensive talent though. Those types of players, where structure is more of a built-in aspect of their game, tend to look better at the pro level early. This is all anecdotal of course. Sure would be nice to hit on a player in the late 1st round though, who could come in and not drown at evens in his early 20s.
