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Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

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supermann_98 said:
Guerrero's trade value is at his highest right compared to the deadline but I'd hope Bo rebounds from his disastrous 2024 to up his value for a midseason deal.

Of course if that Atlanta offer for Bo is true they gotta JUMP on that kind of package asap. He's GONE next year
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What’s the Bo rumor?
 
Gotta love a guy named Nacho. Top of the order bat.
I’ve been pretty sure Bo’d get moved this off-season, assuming he doesn’t really want to extend.
I’m not great at baseball trade values, but Bo and Vladdy are the two who could legitimately demand multiple good pieces coming back.
 
Thornbury said:
No sign of a pivot uey this off-season, and last off season was a disaster.
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I’m on the fence interpreting this.
So far, they’ve mostly avoided bad contracts (with the exception of Springers sixth year) and haven’t caved to any crazy term/aav this year. So, that’s good.
On the other hand, they need to add some bats….reports are in on everyone, but haven’t closed anything.
 
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Scotianhab said:
Dodgers traded for pool space after Sasaki signed. Jays could have done the same thing. Atkins getting bent over twice by his old pal this off-season.
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The only explanation that makes sense is that he’s working for them. He might be the worst manager I’ve ever seen in all of sports.
 
Discoverer said:
I have no idea what the problem was. Players not interested in coming here? An unwillingness to step outside of their valuations? A weird confidence in the players they currently have? It's probably a lot of factors, but all I actually know is that they've failed to this point, and that sucks.

The problem I have with your analysis is that it's 100% just made up in your head. Like... there's absolutely zero evidence that the Jays just sat around waiting on Soto and didn't do anything while they waited, or that the Yankees laid tons of groundwork to be able to move on. Knowing the Jays MO of being interested in everyone, the most likely scenario is that they did lay tons of groundwork all g the way and have just failed to close deals.

The Jays being runner up to others has become a meme the last two years. If they weren't prepared to move on to their next target, they wouldn't be one of the finalists for every player who signs.
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If you have no idea what the problem was, where is your confidence coming from in saying that the issue isn't that they're spending their time and resourcing pursuing players they obviously have no realistic shot at?

When you focus on the wrong guys it's not surprising when you're a runner up for the guys you should have been focused on in the first place.

The evidence that the Yankees were laying groundwork is the fact that they got all of those deals done, and quickly.
 
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Blue Jays notebook: Sasaki fallout and what's next

There's a downside to playing the long game in the off-season, as the Blue Jays are now experiencing first-hand. Where all the failed offers leads for this roster, we'll eventually find out. In the meantime, Ben Nicholson-Smith has some thoughts on where the Blue Jays can go next.
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Possibly some interest in Scherzer? I wouldn't mind that
 
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Kurtz said:
The evidence that the Yankees were laying groundwork is the fact that they got all of those deals done, and quickly.
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Deals come together quickly all the time. Deals are in the works for months only to fall apart all the time. Whether a deal does or doesn't happen doesn't tell you anything about how long they were working on it.
 
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Kurtz said:
If you have no idea what the problem was, where is your confidence coming from in saying that the issue isn't that they're spending their time and resourcing pursuing players they obviously have no realistic shot at?
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I'm not saying we know that wasn't the problem. I'm saying you have absolutely zero evidence to suggest it was, especially considering how many players were available well after they missed on the superstars.

To me, the problem is that they haven't added good enough players. I'm not trying to guess why, and I don't particularly care. They have to get shit down and they haven't done it for two years now.
 
Woodman19 said:
Probably didnt want to cancel his dinner reservations to an all you can eat buffet.
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Pretty sure he'll start putting on the pounds again roughly year 3 into his 12 year contract. I get we all want to see the team re-sign him he's gonna get fat again and soon
 
This management is so f***ing stupid

Why would anyone come here if they don't know vladdy and bichettes status.

Is this a rebuild, a retool or a playoff contender. Nobody tf knows.

This front office needs to get flogged
 
Suntouchable13 said:
They need to re-sign Vladdy and everything looks different.
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For sure. Don't understand what the hold up with him is unless he doesn't want to be here. He's the face of the franchise. If it's 100 million dollar difference it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Especially when it's a long contract. What's 50-75 over 10-15 years. That's if he comes down a bit.
 
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shortfuze said:
For sure. Don't understand what the hold up with him is unless he doesn't want to be here. He's the face of the franchise. If it's 100 million dollar difference it shouldn't be that hard to figure out. Especially when it's a long contract. What's 50-75 over 10-15 years. That's if he comes down a bit.
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It’s a huge gamble paying him 400 million over 10+ yrs, especially in that market.
 
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