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Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

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Mets using Vlad trade discussions as leverage to get a cheaper deal on Alonso.





Jays potentially using Alonso rumors to help with the Vlad extension.

Jays using the Vlad extension to get Sasaki interested in signing.

Jays using the Vlad and Saaski talks to get Bregman and Alonso interested in coming to Toronto.

Jays putting the Bregman rumor out to get Alonso motivated to take their deal and vice versa.

A bluff within a bluff.

The Vlad/Alonso/Bregman rumors reminds me of the Ray and Gausman negotiations. We offer contracts to 3 players, the first 2 players to accept will get their money which may help land Sasaki.
 
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phillipmike said:
Mets using Vlad trade discussions as leverage to get a cheaper deal on Alonso.





Jays potentially using Alonso rumors to help with the Vlad extension.

Jays using the Vlad extension to get Sasaki interested in signing.

Jays using the Vlad and Saaski talks to get Bregman and Alonso interested in coming to Toronto.

Jays putting the Bregman rumor out to get Alonso motivated to take their deal and vice versa.

A bluff within a bluff.

The Vlad/Alonso/Bregman rumors reminds me of the Ray and Gausman negotiations. We offer contracts to 3 players, the first 2 players to accept will get their money which may help land Sasaki.
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I think the Mets missed Toronto off and "interest" became a formal offer to Alonso.
 
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Vladimir Guerrero Jr. and the Blue Jays: The latest on possible extension talks, Alonso factor and more

With his free agency looming in less than nine months, the Blue Jays first baseman is generating discussion on a number of fronts.
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Because it's under a paywall, here's a rundown.

The Blue Jays have not spoken to Guerrero’s camp about an extension since before Christmas, according to a source briefed on the conversations. However, those talks are expected to accelerate before Guerrero’s self-imposed deadline of Feb. 17, the day before the Jays hold their first full workout for pitchers and position players.

Alonso:

*As The Athletic reported Thursday, the Jays are in discussions with free-agent first baseman Pete Alonso. The addition of Alonso would not signal a willingness to trade Guerrero, according to a source briefed on the discussions. The Jays are trying to win, and their more likely plan would be to install Alonso at first and move Guerrero to third, where he appeared in 12 games last season. Both also could serve as designated hitters.

The signing of Alonso also could protect the Jays against the potential loss of Guerrero, provided the deal does not include an opt-out after one year. Alonso’s camp proposed to the Mets exclusively a three-year deal with a high average annual value and opt-outs. The Mets countered with a straight three-year offer that Alonso rejected, league sources said.

On possibility of a Vlad trade:

Finally, while a trade of Guerrero, with or without Alonso, is not out of the question, Toronto’s response to teams that have merely checked in on Guerrero’s availability in a deal reflects their strong desire to keep him.

To even think about trading Guerrero, a package would have to include major leaguers and top prospects and exceed the value the San Diego Padres received from the New York Yankees for Soto, league sources said.
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Bjindaho said:
Nym's offer to Alonso was 3 years, 68-70M. That's not exactly a great take it or leave it offer.
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That’s the kind of offer where you’d feel like player has to give up both term and aav
With word that the Jays have made offers on all the three qualified big bat free agents, I wonder where their offers actually sit.
Media keeps saying they ‘stick to their valuations’….would love to start hearing what those offers are looking like.
 
aingefan said:
That’s the kind of offer where you’d feel like player has to give up both term and aav
With word that the Jays have made offers on all the three qualified big bat free agents, I wonder where their offers actually sit.
Media keeps saying they ‘stick to their valuations’….would love to start hearing what those offers are looking like.
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I feel like they’ll get one of the big 3 remaining, there’s only so many teams still willing to spend that kind of $.

What I’m wondering is if they’d pony up for two of them. I find it hard to believe this front office would pull the trigger, but man if we did we could potentially be a legit contender again.
 
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Ale Brew said:
I feel like they’ll get one of the big 3 remaining, there’s only so many teams still willing to spend that kind of $.

What I’m wondering is if they’d pony up for two of them. I find it hard to believe this front office would pull the trigger, but man if we did we could potentially be a legit contender again.
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Yeah, I agree….two seems like a stretch, one seems likely.
But one of the three, plus say Profar….that sounds like the top end possibility.
Which would be a nice lil offence.
I kinda liked Winker for the mix, but he signed a sweet cheap one year deal.

Unless Sasaki chooses TO….then I could see a different approach, with maybe a an uptick in aggressiveness.
 
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