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They should have been fired after that choke against Seattle. Jesus Christ it was like watching game 7 in 2013 except stretched out over 9 innings.
This is bang on the money. Very well said.They have already screwed it up. They likely could have gotten him signed for 250 - 300M 2-3 years ago. Now it’s going to cost them 400-500M. Or they lose him for nothing.
They have already cost the team hundreds of millions.
And it’s kinda hard to tell by far your best player that you don’t have the money or don’t think he is worth it after making 700M+ offers to FAs in back to back off seasons.
They needed to lock him up before going big game hunting. Especially considering that they missed.
Ohhhhh boy. You know they f***ed up when even you start letting go of their coattails and apron strings. Lol.Atkins and Shapiro have left the fanbase devoid of any real hope. They are not leaders, they are chasers with an overflowing excuse bucket.
Ohhhhh boy. You know they f***ed up when even you start letting go of their coattails and apron strings. Lol.Atkins and Shapiro have left the fanbase devoid of any real hope. They are not leaders, they are chasers with an overflowing excuse bucket.
We heard you the first time!Ohhhhh boy. You know they f***ed up when even you start letting go of their coattails and apron strings. Lol.
Ohhhhh boy. You know they f***ed up when even you start letting go of their coattails and apron strings. Lol.
Hahaha yeah, I don’t know why that sent twice.We heard you the first time!
Hindsight is 20/20 eh?They have already screwed it up. They likely could have gotten him signed for 250 - 300M 2-3 years ago. Now it’s going to cost them 400-500M. Or they lose him for nothing.
They have already cost the team hundreds of millions.
And it’s kinda hard to tell by far your best player that you don’t have the money or don’t think he is worth it after making 700M+ offers to FAs in back to back off seasons.
They needed to lock him up before going big game hunting. Especially considering that they missed.
You don’t need hindsight to know if you are offering FA over 700m your best player who is due a contract is going to expect to get paid tooHindsight is 20/20 eh?
There was never a point at which they shouldn't have been talking deal with Bo. It makes sense today and has at all points. The only reason that anyone is talking about dealing Bo is because we don't believe he will sign.Hindsight is 20/20 eh?
Of course he's going to get paid but to say it's easy to give someone a fat contract when their career is up and down is a little more difficult than you are giving management credit for.You don’t need hindsight to know if you are offering FA over 700m your best player who is due a contract is going to expect to get paid too
Yeah it would have been a bit of a risk to sign him earlier. That’s why it would have been hundreds of millions cheaper.Of course he's going to get paid but to say it's easy to give someone a fat contract when their career is up and down is a little more difficult than you are giving management credit for.
The most disappointing thing for me, amongst all the disappointment those two have provided, is that we were told when they came in that they were going to do a slow build, the right now, infusing talent in the farm system, as to build a consistent contender year over year. The Cleveland model, but afforded the ability to supplement it all with much more financial resources.Atkins and Shapiro have left the fanbase devoid of any real hope. They are not leaders, they are chasers with an overflowing excuse bucket.
The turnaround from a shitty team to a playoff team was quite quick and they did an excellent job at it. Part of the problem it was almost too quick so they didn't have the next wave of talent. The time they did have a high pick, it was the COVID year and players stopped playing. Hard to evaluate talent when they aren't playing. It's also their fault because the drafting, especially pitchers was bad.The most disappointing thing for me, amongst all the disappointment those two have provided, is that we were told when they came in that they were going to do a slow build, the right now, infusing talent in the farm system, as to build a consistent contender year over year. The Cleveland model, but afforded the ability to supplement it all with much more financial resources.
We're going on a decade now of them at the helm, and the team is closer to a team in need of a rebuild than one of a sustainable contender, the farm system is pretty barren, it looks more and more like we are destined to lose our franchise player, and not a single playoff game has been won in the Vladdy/Bo era.
I think this is a completely fair and rational critique of Shatkins.The most disappointing thing for me, amongst all the disappointment those two have provided, is that we were told when they came in that they were going to do a slow build, the right now, infusing talent in the farm system, as to build a consistent contender year over year. The Cleveland model, but afforded the ability to supplement it all with much more financial resources.
We're going on a decade now of them at the helm, and the team is closer to a team in need of a rebuild than one of a sustainable contender, the farm system is pretty barren, it looks more and more like we are destined to lose our franchise player, and not a single playoff game has been won in the Vladdy/Bo era.
And that the hard issue. Is he going to be worth the money they might give him or is he going to go back to his old ways. The problem as fans is we don't have any insight and will always assume the player will be overpaid.Yeah it would have been a bit of a risk to sign him earlier. That’s why it would have been hundreds of millions cheaper.
I’m sorry if I expect the management team that is paid millions of dollars a year to do a hard job but you know that’s what the money is for.
But instead they lowballed him then waited while flashing nearly 3/4 of a billion at multiple FAs and it’s going to cost them a couple hundred million more than it would have. And it will hurt the team overall because that is less money to spend elsewhere.
And if they had signed him when it would have cost much less then there wouldn’t be the same financial risk there is now. Or they let him walk and lose him for nothing.And that the hard issue. Is he going to be worth the money they might give him or is he going to go back to his old ways. The problem as fans is we don't have any insight and will always assume the player will be overpaid.
And fair.Guerrero Jr should not be making private conversations public. If he doesn't like the offers just politely decline. Trashing the organization publicly seems petty and vindictive.