Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[Blitzkrug]

Yeah definitely wouldn't say no to Helsley but Arenado is cooked at this point.

 

[tmlfan98]

 

[Blitzkrug]

Boston turning an off-season from whiffing on Soto into essentially rebuilding their rotation in the span of a day or two would be a big loss for us.

That team isn't that far away from returning to relevance. Putting Burnes and Crochet at the top of that rotation alongside Houck gives them arguably the best rotation in the division. Makes the Jays job of getting back to the playoffs even harder.

Still don't really get why the Giants are in on him though. Though I suppose that's been the feeling for almost every move they've made post 2021.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Cloned]

Jays are probably the worst team in the division right now so Atkins has a lot of work to do.

Shameful how it’s gotten to this point from what he started with.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

Yeah, I don't really get it. They never break anything and there's no evidence they're doing anything other than speculating. Why are some people (many of the ones who see them as nothing but shills) suddenly seeing them as real sources of information on the inner workings of the team?

Don’t think they have sources and really it doesn’t matter. Soto didn’t sign here and it was never really likely he would. I don’t blame management for that, but man they suck.

 

[Eyedea]

I wouldn’t trust Arenado as the big bat addition at this point in his career, nor would I want to pay out the remaining 3 years of his contract. If he bounces back, great, but if this is the start of his decline it could get ugly.

Helsley would make our bullpen a lefty away from looking pretty damn good though. I’m

My intention wasn’t necessarily to acquire him as a “big bat” but more akin to Gimenez where you plug the hole with a ~3 win guy and boost the pen with a shutdown arm. The Gimenez trade (plus Yimi signing) in my eyes meant that whatever talks they previously had with the Cards broke down.

 

[BehindTheTimes]

It's the same thing in hockey where OFD get paid more than DFD but I'd much rather have a DFD. I'm sure the same people would rather have a Ben Revere type than Matt Chapman...

Management deserves blame for walking the 2 home grown stars to FA instead of signing them long term years ago but this was a good trade.

I don’t my the trade in a vacuum, but it bizarre giving the makeup of our club and the cash available. Building the team still matters.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[phillipmike]

[Slusser] “…as other starters came off the board and Burnes’ already high projected price tag looked to go higher, chatter about San Francisco has dipped and the Blue Jays have moved into the perceived frontrunner spot.”​

Weird to see Davidi and BNS' report that the Jays biggest moves might have happened yesterday then see from other prominent insiders that Burnes, Teo, Santander, Joc, and others are still on the table.

Makes me wonder if its a game. FO telling local guys like Davidi and BNS they are out to help with leverage in talks. And the agents telling the national insiders they are still in to drive up the price.

Vladdy working out with Teo;

 

[mikeyz]

"Not done yet"

Lol. When did it start?

 

[trellaine201]

Jays are probably the worst team in the division right now so Atkins has a lot of work to do.

Shameful how it’s gotten to this point from what he started with.

Still not sure why both weren’t fired after last year.

 

[MK78]

What's Schneider doing at the winter meetings? is it normal for a manager to be there?

 

[Ale Brew]

What's Schneider doing at the winter meetings? is it normal for a manager to be there?

Yeah, they all seem to have been interviewed on MLB TV this week.

 

[Scotianhab]

What's Schneider doing at the winter meetings? is it normal for a manager to be there?

He has to carry Atkins luggage.

 

[Woodman19]

Anyone else find it funny that after those hundreds of millions spent on a dev complex all we have managed to do is have players stagnate when they come to Toronto and the only prospects we develop are overage players who generally can't field

 

[saska sault]

Anyone else find it funny that after those hundreds of millions spent on a dev complex all we have managed to do is have players stagnate when they come to Toronto and the only prospects we develop are overage players who generally can't field

Atkins in free agency summarized.

 

[Blitzkrug]

What's Schneider doing at the winter meetings? is it normal for a manager to be there?

Managers always go alongside the executives/owners. No different than the coaches usually showing up at the NFL owners meeting when they happen.

...and yeah, I wouldn't be surprised if he's also carrying Ross's luggage as people said.

 

[Discoverer]

Atkins in free agency summarized.

55 OUTFIELDERS 55 STARTERS 55 SECOND BASEMEN AND 155 RELIEVERS

 

[Puckstuff]

Bring back Teoscar and give us hope:

1. Gimenez
2. Springer
3. Guerrero Jr.
4. Hernandez
5. Bichette
6. Kirk
7. Varsho
8. Clement
9. Roden

 

[tmlfan98]

Any Oilers fans that post in this thread, is this guy legit or no? He seems to have a good track record but you guys would know more because he's an Oilers guy.

 

[landy92mack29]

Fried got 27.5/yr, there's no way Burnes is getting 36/yr unless he only does 1-3 yrs. Even then unlikely.

 

[red devil]

Any Oilers fans that post in this thread, is this guy legit or no? He seems to have a good track record but you guys would know more because he's an Oilers guy.

He got Springer to the Jays right but was wrong on the final numbers



He has been right on Dach's contract with Montreal, Kulak to Edmonton. He does have sources and doesn't troll post. I'm always skeptical until I hear Passan or Rosenthal say it.

 

[Seath The Scaleless]

Bring back Teoscar and give us hope:

1. Gimenez
2. Springer
3. Guerrero Jr.
4. Hernandez
5. Bichette
6. Kirk
7. Varsho
8. Clement
9. Roden

We're doomed if Gimenez is leading off. He should be near the bottom

Can't trust Springer in there either. We currently don't have anyone who could be a decent leadoff hitter

 

[phillipmike]

Fried got 27.5/yr, there's no way Burnes is getting 36/yr unless he only does 1-3 yrs. Even then unlikely.

I don’t think he signed with the Jays but if he does it is probably that number. The Toronto tax.