Speculation: Roster Building Thread: Part XIV (To trade or not to trade is the question)

[UnparalledPark]

So you want to put all centers on there? No room for Leetch, Henrik, Gilbert?

Oh, I took it as it was the Mt. Rushmore of Ranger centers only.

 

[UnSandvich]

Great retort when everything else you tried failed.

Still want to push your narrative for Boucher in a time where there were only 120 players in the league

My guy, your argument of "Zibanejad scored more points so he's better" while simultaneously ignoring performance relative to contemporaries, award/all star voting and more is so stubborn, I genuinely can't tell where bias ends and a genuine lack of comprehension begins. Or I suppose you could just be a troll.

Regardless, it is abundantly clear you do not have any intention of having a genuine debate or considering opposing evidence, so have a good night.

 

[eco's bones]

It's pretty near impossible to compare players from different eras and then opinions are opinions.....everybody has one.

On Zibanejad he's been great for us until fairly recently. He didn't get the contract he did for nothing. His production numbers and overall play justified giving him that at the time. His game kind of dropped last year though and he and his line got owned by Florida and Barkov's line in last year's playoffs. Whether that's been part of his confidence issues this year I have no idea but his focus has been shit and he's made a lot of soft plays that have come back to hurt us which is why his minus numbers are so horrific. I don't want to kill the guy but hockey like almost anything else is a lot about what have you done lately? That's why all the negativity in his direction.

Career and legacy wise he's a fairly big reach to become an HOF player. If he can get over a 1000 points and win a Cup that would help. I'd think he'd have to do at least both.

 

[huerter]

Was Brooks seriously suggesting Stamkos? Is there a worse fit in the entire league?

 

[effen]

Frank Boucher was ranked #61 by THN of the 100 Greatest Hockey players.

Um. The end. Siddi you're way, way, way out to lunch.

 

[Siddi]

Not to diminish what Zibanejad was once upon a time, but he’s not even the best Rangers forward of this era.

Siddi is Swedish, if I’m remembering correctly, so there’s a bit of bias involved here IMO.

Who would you put ahead of him?

 

[Siddi]

My guy, your argument of "Zibanejad scored more points so he's better" while simultaneously ignoring performance relative to contemporaries, award/all star voting and more is so stubborn, I genuinely can't tell where bias ends and a genuine lack of comprehension begins. Or I suppose you could just be a troll.

Regardless, it is abundantly clear you do not have any intention of having a genuine debate or considering opposing evidence, so have a good night.

I am sorry but your argument in regards to players in a league with 120 players is not flying.

 

[effen]

Who would you put ahead of him?

Panarin has two 1st team all star selections and a 2nd team as well as two top-5 Hart finishes in five years ...

 

[Siddi]

Frank Boucher was ranked #61 by THN of the 100 Greatest Hockey players.

Um. The end. Siddi you're way, way, way out to lunch.

So all of a sudden hockey media is the gospel of truth? Of course pioneers from way back and nostalgia carries alot of weight when creating those rankings.

 

[Siddi]

Panarin has two 1st team all star selections and a 2nd team as well as two top-5 Hart finishes in five years ...

Panarin also has been outscored (goals) by Mika every season except last one since he joined the Rangers.

Panarin has been outscored by Mika in every playoffs since joining the Rangers.

I seriously believe people underrate Mikas career as a Ranger.

 

[effen]

So all of a sudden hockey media is the gospel of truth?

For ranking hockey players across eras? Um, yeah, probably.

 

[Siddi]

For ranking hockey players across eras? Um, yeah, probably.

I appreciate your input in this discussion.