Blue Jays Discussion: 2024-25 Off-season: The free agent watch begins (and sometimes old baseball radio broadcasts)

[SprDaVE]

Im a very casual Blue Jays fan but this management seems completely incompetent and just incapable of doing the right thing

 

[Bjindaho]

At the end of the day, we don’t know the number ($$$) that will get the deal done. So how can we really judge? But this front office is so stubborn with their valuations.

We can judge because there was a point where the number was fairly obvious and management refused to commit.

They've been walking this to the deadline (like Bo) while having cold feet the whole way along. This is the same group that dropped out of the Soto bidding once it hit a certain level because they "stuck to their valuations"

 

[Anthrax442]

 

[WeThreeKings]

We can judge because there was a point where the number was fairly obvious and management refused to commit.

They've been walking this to the deadline (like Bo) while having cold feet the whole way along. This is the same group that dropped out of the Soto bidding once it hit a certain level because they "stuck to their valuations"

We can certainly judge that if they were not close at any point in the player and their valuation, that you go and just get your best haul on Bo and Vladdy.. but they are stubbornly trying to 'compete' by burning assets to keep the team aggressively mid.

 

[stats1]

Shocking the level of ineptitude from this management group. Willing to give two $700 million contracts to free agents but can’t even sign the face of your own franchise. Crazy

 

[Anthrax442]

 

[stats1]

Honestly as a fan I don’t even know what to think right now. Like I kind of don’t care about the season now. we’re going to have to deal with trade talk now for the next 4-5 months

 

[Jozay]

Should’ve just traded him. If you can’t get it done now, you’re not getting it done bidding against teams in free agency

 

[Leaf Rocket]

Im a very casual Blue Jays fan but this management seems completely incompetent and just incapable of doing the right thing

Same. I’m just in shock with the level ineptitude to do something like this tbh.

 

[stats1]

Nobody to blame but Shatkins here. They slow played this, dragged their feet for at least a year provably longer and now for sure there is zero chance he’s back because now you’re going to have to deal with the Mets and other markets for his services. The bidding war is going to be insane.

How in the world do you botch signing your 25 year old gold glover??? He’s a 35-40 HR guy automatically every year while driving in 100 runs. Just wild!!! Please fire these clowns

 

[Anthrax442]

I know people say this all the time. But Im not buying any tickets to the games as long as these 2 clowns run the show. Done.

 

[Bjindaho]

So we're 9 years in...

In 2017, we had a decent team AND Bo and Vlad in the minors.

In 2019 (when Vlad and Bo debuted),

we had Jano catching, McGuire as backup (with Kirk and Moreno in the minors)

we had Smoak and Tellez for 1st (albeit neither one did much after that)

we had Biggio playing 2B (with Drury/Sogard as backups)

we had Galvis playing SS as the starter (with Bo taking over)

we had Vlad playing 3B

Our outfield was Gurriel, Hernandez, Grichuk.

Of that entire list, Kirk is the only one left (and he's not signed long term).

There's also not a single pitcher from that team still with the organization.

That's 5 years to potentially purge the entire roster while spending more money.

 

[aingefan]

There’s always two sides negotiating.
Not a particularly good look. I do wonder what the FO’s hold up is. Is it work and health habits? Variable performance over the years? There has to be something.
Might as well explore the trade market now. Likely the high point in trade value.

 

[saska sault]

Well... have a good season Blue Jays, my interest is close to zero before they throw a pitch. Management sure has a great ability of turning an entire fanbase against themselves. Some fans may think it's overstated, but really... how has this team become so unlikeable from 2 to 3 years ago? Traded away fan favorites, refused to make coaching changes, took personality away for what? Bad prospect pool, no young stars to sign long term.... disgusting.

 

[WeThreeKings]

There’s always two sides negotiating.
Not a particularly good look. I do wonder what the FO’s hold up is. Is it work and health habits? Variable performance over the years? There has to be something.
Might as well explore the trade market now. Likely the high point in trade value.

The FO is just not good.

 

[GoonieFace]

Is this the same fanbase that was ragging on Vladdy to start last season and seasons previous?

Obviously they are 2 sides to every story. If Vladdy was asking a ridiculous amount of money and term than they should have just traded him.

I’m not convinced that Vladdy is worth what he is asking, strictly from a baseball perspective. But all the other things he brings, it should have been a no brainer to sign him.

They really botched this one, yet again.

 

[WeThreeKings]

 

[inthe6ix]

Toronto Blue Jays, Vladimir Guerrero Jr. fail to reach extension prior to self-imposed deadline | TSN

The Toronto Blue Jays and Vladimir Guerrero Jr. did not reach a contract extension by the deadline set by the star first baseman. “They had their numbers. I had my numbers," Guerrero said Tuesday morning prior to the team's first official full squad workout.

www.tsn.ca

“I’m here. We didn’t get an agreement. Now, they’re going to have to compete with 29 other teams,"

Fffffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

 

[inthe6ix]

The FO is just not good.

FFS sign him or trade him, the ineptitude of this front office is palpable.

 

[TheTotalPackage]

 

[Discoverer]

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I was just about to post suggesting it wasn't a real deadline because there's no way Vladdy would say no if they came to him between now and the end of the season and offered what he's asking for. So I guess today doesn't really change anything.

They needed to make a decision on at least one of their two core pieces, and they haven't done anything about them. If you extend or trade one of Bo/Vlad, then I feel much more comfortable going into the season with the other as a question mark. As it stands, the whole future of the organization is up in the air.

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

As an outside fan, the worst part about this is that he's going to end up on the Yankees or Dodgers now .

 

[Dr.Funk]

As an outside fan, the worst part about this is that he's going to end up on the Yankees or Dodgers now .

Red Sox

Making the green monster his bitch

 

[I Hate Philadelphia]

Red Sox

Making the green monster his bitch

I'm a Red Sox fan so I would love that but I can't see it.

Dodgers beat their offer with $1 billion (deferred to 2055)

 

[robertmac43]

I honestly can't believe they let him get to to FA....