Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread

[tomd]

I'll give Verbeek credit for playing the long game with Gibson. While most of us (myself included) were willing to waive him over the summer, Verbeek has stood fast on getting a "very high" return for him. And he just may get that but keeping him is cool as well.

 

[MMC]

I'll give Verbeek credit for playing the long game with Gibson. While most of us (myself included) were willing to waive him over the summer, Verbeek has stood fast on getting a "very high" return for him. And he just may get that but keeping him is cool as well.

I don't know if this is true

 

[tomd]

I don't know if this is true

Which part? The Gibson hate/frustration was very high over the summer...replace the word "most" with "many" if you prefer. If you weren't included in the "many" then that's ok.

 

[MMC]

Which part? The Gibson hate/frustration was very high over the summer...replace the word "most" with "many" if you prefer. If you weren't included in the "many" then that's ok.

That people would've been cool with just throwing Gibson on waivers last summer. What would the point be of giving him away for free?

 

[JAHV]

I'll give Verbeek credit for playing the long game with Gibson. While most of us (myself included) were willing to waive him over the summer, Verbeek has stood fast on getting a "very high" return for him. And he just may get that but keeping him is cool as well.

There were people who wanted to waive him? I think the crowd of Ducks fans who wanted to trade him or dump him for very little had grown, but I don't think there were a lot of people just looking to waive him.

 

[tomd]

That people would've been cool with just throwing Gibson on waivers last summer. What would the point be of giving him away for free?

Because his attitude was terrible and only exceeded by his on ice performance?

 

[WhatTheDuck]

2025 NHL Trade Deadline: Top 5 under-the-radar additions to watch

From depth defensemen to role-oriented forwards, these five could become big value pickups this year.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

 

[91Fedorov]

2025 NHL Trade Deadline: Top 5 under-the-radar additions to watch

From depth defensemen to role-oriented forwards, these five could become big value pickups this year.

www.dailyfaceoff.com

Interestingly, in that article there's a link to Seravalli's top 30 trade targets. Zegras is nowhere to be found in it.

 

[70sSanO]

If Edmonton really wants Gibson, pretty simple for me to move Gibson and Helleson for Bouchard.

John

 

[ScarTroy]

If Edmonton really wants Gibson, pretty simple for me to move Gibson and Helleson for Bouchard.

John

Near PPG defenseman in their prime go for much more than a goalie and 4/5 D. They’d be better off just running with Skinner

 

[70sSanO]

Near PPG defenseman in their prime go for much more than a goalie and 4/5 D. They’d be better off just running with Skinner

Agree. But like the old saying, If you want it bad…

John

 

[tomd]

If Edmonton really wants Gibson, pretty simple for me to move Gibson and Helleson for Bouchard.

John

I think I read somewhere on HF that he is looking for $10 million AAV this summer.

 

[JAHV]

I think I read somewhere on HF that he is looking for $10 million AAV this summer.

I know his defense can be suspect at times, but I would be happy to pay a 25-year-old, near PPG RHD $10 million per year. Heck, Gibson, Helleson, and Zellweger for Bouchard and Skinner. Long-term you go LaCombe-Bouchard, Mintyukov-Trouba, Stolberg - Luneau. Sign a LHD for a couple years until Stolberg is ready.

I know, none of this is real. But it's fun to think about.

 

[DavidBL]

Crazy dream scenario not based in reality. Carolina unable to re-sign Rantanen puts him up for sale, we offer Gibby, Fabbri@50% and Lundestrom and a D prospect for Rantenan and Kotkaniemi and either of their goalies they dont want. No way it ever happens but a guy and wish can't he?

 

[tomd]

Crazy dream scenario not based in reality. Carolina unable to re-sign Rantanen puts him up for sale, we offer Gibby, Fabbri@50% and Lundestrom and a D prospect for Rantenan and Kotkaniemi and either of their goalies they dont want. No way it ever happens but a guy and wish can't he?

What if he won't sign with the Ducks?

 

[DavidBL]

What if he won't sign with the Ducks?

We still have Dostal and upgraded Lundestrom to Kotkaniemi. You lose out on returns for Gibby and Fabbri for the chance of offering an 8th year for a player who will have a lot of suitors as a UFA. Doesn't seem like a crazy cost given most people didnt/don't think Gibby has any value. Of course that assumes Carolina thinks Gibby has value. What's Fabbri worth, even at 50%?

 

[tomd]

We still have Dostal and upgraded Lundestrom to Kotkaniemi. You lose out on returns for Gibby and Fabbri for the chance of offering an 8th year for a player who will have a lot of suitors as a UFA. Doesn't seem like a crazy cost given most people didnt/don't think Gibby has any value. Of course that assumes Carolina thinks Gibby has value. What's Fabbri worth, even at 50%?

well, that creative if nothing else. of course, the Ducks would have to take back Andersen in your mythical scenario. I can't see any way the Ducks do that deal without a guaranteed signed Rantanen. You might as well take your chances of signing him in free agency and keep the assets.

 

[DavidBL]

well, that creative if nothing else. of course, the Ducks would have to take back Andersen in your mythical scenario. I can't see any way the Ducks do that deal without a guaranteed signed Rantanen. You might as well take your chances of signing him in free agency and keep the assets.

You're probably right but I'm more willing than most to give up futures to trade for pending UFAs I want to sign rather than waiting. Probably because we usually lose out in UFA.

 

[Hey234]

Trading Gibson will be a clear step back in goal. The goalie in return in any trade will obviously be worse than Gibson and his replacement next season, whether it's this goalie or another, will almost certainly be worse than Gibson.

It stands to reason that unless Dostal compensates by playing more games, then the Ducks will allow more goals after a Gibson trade. Considering their current reliance on stellar goaltending and inability to consistently score goals, it seems like trading Gibson would be a mistake for the team. However, if he wants out, that should be respected.

Consequently, I understand why Verbeek will not lower his value on him. Trading Gibson hurts the Ducks now and next year. It should cost a lot if the Ducks are having to take a step back in goal.