Speculation: 2024-25 - Free Agency/Trade Thread

[All Mighty]

Neither Kreider nor Trouba are accepting a trade to come here.

 

[ducknuts]

Trouba is awful. PV better not go there.

 

[Static]

I have hard time imagining him being traded for to play bottom pairing easy minutes.

I don't think he would ever waive to come here anyway, but if he did, I would expect him to play around the same amount he does with New York, but not explicitly against the best competition. Out west would seem to better suit his game as well.

 

[All Mighty]

I would have been interested in this deal closer to the deadline when we ship off a couple forwards, but I’m not sure we have space for Tomasino at this moment.

 

[Static]

I don't think much of trotz the gm so far.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

I also don't think it would happen but Kreider is right in the age range where moving from a high-profile to a low-profile environment probably starts to sound kind of nice.

 

[mightyquack]

Trouba isn't leaving New York unless his contract is terminated.

 

[mightyquack]

I don't think much of trotz the gm so far.

Done a great job in Nashville, long may it continue!

 

[duckpuck]

I'd still be very interested in trouba, but I don't see how they try and move him again after the last fiasco.

His Wife's residency ends in July. After that, she's looking for a job - technically she's very likely interviewing now since doctors plan well ahead for things like that. Lots of medical jobs/practices i California . . . and no doubt our owner's have lots of contacts in that regard.

Eventually the NYR will trade or buyout Trouba. Now is not a bad time for him to pick his new destination.

I'd absolutely entertain that idea. Trouba seems to be due for a change of scenery, and playing off the microscope of a huge market team could well help him get back to his former self.

I would offer Killorn for Trouba, maybe with a slight add from NYR. The interesting thing is that Trouba's contract was frontloaded, so even though he has a higher AAV ($8M vs. $6.25M), going forward the actual cash is higher on Killorn's contract ($6M for Trouba vs. $6.25M for Killorn). So maybe they don't add.

After the ducks make that trade, they dump Domoulin at the deadline or sooner, and Trouba serves that role (bottom pairing RHD) next year.

Neither Kreider nor Trouba are accepting a trade to come here.

I have no idea about Kreider, but as noted above, Trouba needs to start planning for a move that is compatible with his wife's career. The list of teams willing to sign him is pretty limited.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[dracom]

Gibson to the Canes makes so much to me but i don’t know what the deal would be.

 

[Static]

I doubt they want someone that permanent. Reimer in buffalo seems like a better bet, perhaps. A stopgap like that.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

At some point you have to think Andersen is just done. That guy has spent more time on IR the last few years than anybody. If you truly think you're a cup contender, how can you possibly not want Gibson over Andersen? Now maybe a deal can't be worked out, but Gibson has already supposedly asked out and PV has supposedly said he would try to accommodate him if possible. This would seem to be the perfect time to make something happen from the standpoint of both teams.

 

[ZegrassyKnoll]

Avs down 5-1 after one period... This feels like a prime "panic trade for a Goalie" moment.

 

[Hey234]

I'm not sure why they would want to trade Gibson right now. If Dostal falters or gets injured, the next goalie in line is.... Dansk or Clara... I'd rather keep Gibson. The only way would be for the Ducks to receive a serviceable goalie in return. But if a team had that type of goalie, why would they want to pay the price for Gibson? Seems risky when this team is relying almost completely on it's goalies to win games.

 

[Hey234]

Thinking about next season, if Fowler ends up being traded - as per his request - and Dumoulin is either traded/walls, then there are some interesting spots to fill. Assuming Luneau earns/is given a spot next season and Gudas remains, it seems the Ducks will need a RD to play with Minty and a LD to play with Luneau. I don't see LaCombe making it long-term with the team.

Minty-xxx
Zellweger-Gudas
xxx-Luneau
Vaakanainen/Helleson

 

[Masch78]

Gibson to the Canes makes so much to me but i don’t know what the deal would be.

Nikita Artamonov to Ducks and it is a deal for me.

 

[shach1]

Nikita Artamonov to Ducks and it is a deal for me.

We could have drafted him in round 2 but chose not to.

 

[12ozPapa]

Thinking about next season, if Fowler ends up being traded - as per his request - and Dumoulin is either traded/walls, then there are some interesting spots to fill. Assuming Luneau earns/is given a spot next season and Gudas remains, it seems the Ducks will need a RD to play with Minty and a LD to play with Luneau. I don't see LaCombe making it long-term with the team.

Minty-xxx
Zellweger-Gudas
xxx-Luneau
Vaakanainen/Helleson

When did Fowler request a trade?

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Thinking about next season, if Fowler ends up being traded - as per his request - and Dumoulin is either traded/walls, then there are some interesting spots to fill. Assuming Luneau earns/is given a spot next season and Gudas remains, it seems the Ducks will need a RD to play with Minty and a LD to play with Luneau. I don't see LaCombe making it long-term with the team.

Minty-xxx
Zellweger-Gudas
xxx-Luneau
Vaakanainen/Helleson

Gudas is projecting to being a 3rd pairing guy next season if we want him to play at an optimum. He looks like he is wearing down this season and the season just started.

 

[robbieboy3686]

Gudas is projecting to being a 3rd pairing guy next season if we want him to play at an optimum. He looks like he is wearing down this season and the season just started.

And that’s fine, luckily we have infinite cap space to upgrade our roster all around. Not to mention, guys like mctavish will be bridged ( where as before we thought he would be getting a bigger longer deal). Money and assets are a plenty to make the proper moves

 

[MCB]

And that’s fine, luckily we have infinite cap space to upgrade our roster all around. Not to mention, guys like mctavish will be bridged ( where as before we thought he would be getting a bigger longer deal. Money and assets are a plenty to make the proper moves

Ooh just like Vegas!

 

[duckpuck]

I'm not sure why they would want to trade Gibson right now. If Dostal falters or gets injured, the next goalie in line is.... Dansk or Clara... I'd rather keep Gibson. The only way would be for the Ducks to receive a serviceable goalie in return. But if a team had that type of goalie, why would they want to pay the price for Gibson? Seems risky when this team is relying almost completely on it's goalies to win games.

In any likely trade, the ducks will get a passable backup goalie in return (if for no other reason than to balance salary). Or you go get one for a low draft pick. At that point, Dostal is your starter and all you need is a plug backup so you don't have to rush the younger guys.

Having a poor backup (i.e., downgrade from Gibson) will not have a material impact on a team that's not going to make the playoffs this year. In the offseason, you can upgrade the backup goalie.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

In any likely trade, the ducks will get a passable backup goalie in return (if for no other reason than to balance salary). Or you go get one for a low draft pick. At that point, Dostal is your starter and all you need is a plug backup so you don't have to rush the younger guys.

Having a poor backup (i.e., downgrade from Gibson) will not have a material impact on a team that's not going to make the playoffs this year. In the offseason, you can upgrade the backup goalie.

Having a poor backup goalie could ruin Dostal by running him to the ground b/c the any coach that wants to preserve their job would want the best possible outcome. I've shared a table showing the production each game by our netminders in other posts. Cronin ran Dostal into the ground and Dostal faltered hard for three consecutive games. When Gibby returned, Dostal was able to get some much needed time off and rest to bounce back.

Let's not repeat history again and believe having a poor backup will not have a material impact on the team. Our netminders are the only reason we're close to .500 in 20 games. Dostal could be wrecked and we would take a tremendous step backwards.

Spoiler: Goalie production per game, first 20 games

Improved goal scoring with great goaltending could launch us into the next tier. We have so many young, offensive forwards that with better coaching the improved scoring should happen far sooner than improving our 5v5 defense.

IMO, this is another development season since it's year 3 of the Verbeek reset rebuild. Keeping Gibson for this season preserves Dostal and still allows for growth for our youths despite getting caved in. It would also give us ample time to find a better backup goalie than settle for a "poor backup" for 3/4ths of the season.