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This referee thing having happened to a Liverpool coach with Savant around is the greatest thing that could have ever happened to this forum.
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Duchene2MacKinnon
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hatterson
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It happening to Arsenal would have been the best content, but Liverpool is a close second.
Until Anthony Taylor gets VAR wrong in their next match. Then, the hunt is on anew…
bluesfan94
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I just know that if Coote had said this about the Wolves manager or whatever it would still be proof Liverpool was discriminated against.
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Honestly, I’m shocked it’s taken this long to get a video of an English ref saying screw some club.
I hear they keep files and files on Wenger and even have photos of Tony Adams in drag.
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Jussi
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Or most clubs. I don't really know what club's fans don't think he hates them.
maclean
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"Alcohol". Mm-hm.
Imagine he had actually left the boards like he assured us repeatedly he would
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Wee Baby Seamus
Yo, Goober, where's the meat?
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Posting this and not pointing out Man City is completely missing the point here. Also I don’t think these numbers are right. What I’ve seen is that LFC’s win rate dropped 12.6% when Coote was in charge.
There’s a more forensic look here if you care. But yeah basically if we are assuming these numbers are right, all Coote did was bring LFC down to the Utd/Leicester/Bolton level. If your take away is LFC weren’t hurt that bad by Coote because the numbers are second best (when LFC probably was second best in general) by comparison, I don’t think you are interpreting this in the correct way. And the sample size is obviously bad
If this is about me, I took many months off, signed back onto sell some hockey tickets, and came back to soccer because I couldn’t stand another Jeffrey post about Liverpool. Blame Jeffrey. Also I had some very nice DMs from people who can remain anonymous that asked.
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hatterson
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Basing "went down by x%" based on a sample size so small that literally one result going the other way changes the conclusion is deeply stupid.
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Also, if we want to put the tin foil hats on - since I know you love a good conspiracy, why didn’t Coote ref a Premier League LFC game for nearly 4 years?
Granted they had him on VAR a bunch during that time, but didn’t see him as head official in a league game for many seasons after the game he referenced in the video. I’m not saying PGMOL knew about the video earlier (or when it first came out) like the tweet is saying, but seems like a very long time in between matches
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bluesfan94
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If the whole scandal is Coote doesn't like someone he works with, it's a pretty boring scandal. Especially coming right after Kloppo had a go at him in the media.
Coote reffed the following league matches for Man City: Wolves (H), Sheffield United (H), Bournemouth (H), Brentford (A), Crystal Palace (A), Sheffield United (H). Not exactly shocking City won all of those. They also haven't lost a league match with Darren England or Robert Jones (from Liverpool lol), reffing them, if you're looking for more scandal.
That's a silly analysis, given that Liverpool is above every team other than City.
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But you would expect LFC to be above every team other than City during that time period.
bluesfan94
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Especially when Liverpool has a better league winning percentage and points percentage with Coote reffing them than with Klopp as manager, if you want to play the small sample size game.
Yes, and they were.
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Right but again, what’s the impact of 100% vs 66.7% ? We know the margins are very small. Even if it’s an extra 3 or 6 point swing in either direction that’s a huge deal here. That’s the impact here not “LFC didn’t have it that bad”
Wee Baby Seamus
Yo, Goober, where's the meat?
The issue is the delegitimizing impacts of the appearance of impropriety. A referee's ability to do his job is fully contingent on at least some degree of acceptance that calls are being made legitimately and objectively. Obviously, that is a legitimacy which has been already corroded in the last few years with the shambolic state of PL reffing. A referee then plainly saying that he hates a specific club and calling their coach a German
? It brings the whole thing into a higher degree of disrepute.Regardless of whether there's a clear and direct impact of Coote hating Liverpool on Liverpool's results (something which, due to sample sizes, would be basically impossible to sketch out anyway), he will never be able to be accepted again as an impartial referee, which is what the whole system is predicated upon. And it creates a higher level of open season for his peers, who are all going to be looked at through the lens of "what's in their coked-out video?"
It deepens the legitimacy crisis to a pretty significant degree - whether or not he specifically f***ed over Liverpool is absolutely beside the point.
But also, "doesn't like someone he works with" is the understatement of the century here. He didn't say "I dislike reffing Liverpool games because Klopp gets up in my shit and screams at me."
