dracom
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Fire Cronin and Verbeek. Both are ass. Cronin actively sabotaging the development of the young kids. Verbeek for putting in half ass roster and hiring Cronin.
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Smirnov2Chistov
Fire Greg Cronin!
in the end, nothing matters.
Verbeek is happy with middling improvement, and Cronin is way out of his depth.
The front office idiots should have gone after Keefe.
Verbeek is happy with middling improvement, and Cronin is way out of his depth.
The front office idiots should have gone after Keefe.
MMC
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You guys are going to drive yourselves insane if you do this after every game this season
no accountability in this organization....PV is rapidly proving he is incompetent....you dont get 4 years to "turn things around" in pro sports, and not only that we are no better off now then when he 1st took over....if cronin isnt gone in the next week (it should be before they get home) then the axe needs to fall on his head...there is no way to defend this team over the last decade to be where they are right now....IT HAS TO CHANGE
As much as I think Cronin is a bad and potentially awful coach, he isn’t going anywhere especially cuz the team is .500 after a pretty tough road trip (yes I know it’s all Dostal). We gotta just settle in with him as much as it sucks. I know some people think Verbeek brings him back next year no matter what, but idk I could see him cut ties after this year, but def not during.
I actually think tonight was the most infuriating game of them all. Absolutely suffocated by a terrible team and completely unable to sustain any degree of pressure. At least the Rangers, Devils, Avs and Kings are pretty good teams - we looked similar in those games but the Pens are bad. I’m worried this trend could continue against other bad teams. Dosty can only do this for so long.
I actually think tonight was the most infuriating game of them all. Absolutely suffocated by a terrible team and completely unable to sustain any degree of pressure. At least the Rangers, Devils, Avs and Kings are pretty good teams - we looked similar in those games but the Pens are bad. I’m worried this trend could continue against other bad teams. Dosty can only do this for so long.
robbieboy3686
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Tbf the penguins are a veteran team who were desperate to win tonight. And they played like it, we ran into a similar situation v the devils( who also were desperate to win and turn it around) we play a lot of home games in November. November will be the month that imho clearly shows what direction the ducks under Cronin are headed
TheGoodShepard1
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I’m like Henry Waternoose from Monsters Inc. “I’ll post about it 1000 times before I let this franchise die!”
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Middling improvement would be great lmao. This is the same old shit and we're far from middling.
Tough not to when we're all watching hoping to see this team take some visible steps towards improvement so that this team eventually gets back to competitive hockey instead of interminably rebuilding. And even more grave is the fact that we actually have a solid collection of promising young players that can help lift the team out of a rebuild if developed properly and if build around properly. If. If they're not, then they go to waste and the rebuild continues.
Echoing others, last game would only be acceptable from the sense that it was the last of a road trip and players probably tired, but that Penguins team is just so bad. To get outplayed that much is not ok.
Cronin&co need to bear down on the defensive zone puck retrievals and how to transition to offense with possession, the team is full of players capable of that. Offensive zone work is mostly fine apart from some lack of composure in keeping possession which often ends in early rims and passes which get picked off. Most of the issues seem to revolve around the fear of making mistakes, at least on the road, too big gaps, lack of engagement in the defensive zone, too early giveaways.
I actually don't fault Verbeek here, he has moved on from a lot of players and we have a very lean team for the future with all our top young talent still here. The deals he did give out are not an issue. Sure, if Cronin can't find any offense with this team then Verbeek has to show willingness to move on from Cronin.
Cronin&co need to bear down on the defensive zone puck retrievals and how to transition to offense with possession, the team is full of players capable of that. Offensive zone work is mostly fine apart from some lack of composure in keeping possession which often ends in early rims and passes which get picked off. Most of the issues seem to revolve around the fear of making mistakes, at least on the road, too big gaps, lack of engagement in the defensive zone, too early giveaways.
I actually don't fault Verbeek here, he has moved on from a lot of players and we have a very lean team for the future with all our top young talent still here. The deals he did give out are not an issue. Sure, if Cronin can't find any offense with this team then Verbeek has to show willingness to move on from Cronin.
You’d think that after years of regularly giving up 40+ shots, they’d try to make some changes. Do even other bad teams give up quite that many shots and as consistently? With Eakins, our personnel for a couple years may have been allowing for it, but it shouldn’t be happening still where it happens this often, the system is just junk.
AngelDuck
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I’m a big Verbeek fan, I think he took over a tough situation and has done pretty good so far.
But, the coaching is inexcusable. He has to get the next head coaching pick right or else we’re f***ed
But, the coaching is inexcusable. He has to get the next head coaching pick right or else we’re f***ed
Deuce22
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Cronin spoke of making adjustments in his coaching and management style. He recognized that it wasn't working last season. Now he needs to make an adjustment to the defensive system that his team is playing. It isn't working. Too much time trapped in our zone, players exhausted that can't get off the ice, the goalie being peppered with shots almost every game. What should be the strength of the team (offensive skill) is being wasted because they rarely have the puck. I'm not a hockey coach, but would like to see more pressure on the puck when defending. Saying "they aren't skating" shouldn't cut it anymore. Because that is a reflection on the coach, as well.
70sSanO
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There is only one player who may be able to influence Verbeek… Dostal.
While he is not going to be eligible for FA, he may be the real deal and he may not want to go the Gibson route getting peppered every night for a losing cause.
You lose Dostal, you lose the season, well, the season is lost already, but maybe not another top 3 pick with him.
John
While he is not going to be eligible for FA, he may be the real deal and he may not want to go the Gibson route getting peppered every night for a losing cause.
You lose Dostal, you lose the season, well, the season is lost already, but maybe not another top 3 pick with him.
John
I've been a Ducks Fan since 2004, and a hockey fan since a kid (I'm 52). My enthusiasm for this team coming into this season was about the lowest it's been in that 20 years. After watching the first handful of games, I'm really struggling to want to keep tuning in. It's not only a bad team, but a boring team. Really not a good combo. At this point, I have no faith in Cronin, and very little in PV.
I love the Ducks, but this how you begin to lose a fan base, and potentially a team. Being 7 hrs from SLC, I was hoping to watch some of their games and have them as a "backup team". But of course, all their games are blacked out for me in Idaho.
Look what's going on in San Jose...
I love the Ducks, but this how you begin to lose a fan base, and potentially a team. Being 7 hrs from SLC, I was hoping to watch some of their games and have them as a "backup team". But of course, all their games are blacked out for me in Idaho.
Look what's going on in San Jose...
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The Midnight Burrito
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I find myself just watching the games expressionlessly like a psychopath. This isn’t fun.
Hockey Duckie
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The Athletic's Nov 1st Power Rankings, Anaheim comment
Maybe we're not good at developing youths or we're using the NHL as the developmental ground (rushing prospects) without proper insulation.
Maybe we're not good at developing youths or we're using the NHL as the developmental ground (rushing prospects) without proper insulation.
That post sums up my greatest fears for this team.
dracom
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Yup. But Verbeek and the owners don’t care.
Everyone can praise the Samuelis all they want, but they’ve done nothing to show me they care about the team doing well. We’re going down the drain fast.
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Reveille1984
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Yeah, it's kind of robotic for me at this point.
First Period: Well, guess I'll watch this because I'm a Ducks fan
First intermission:
Hockey Duckie
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I like owners who let front office do their job and not be intrusive. Angel fan here to know what an owner who is involved with front office operations can truly do. In the Ducks situation, the only person to blame would be the GM. Yet, if the GM sold the Samueli's that a reset rebuild was needed, then it's premature for the owners to pull the plug in the start of year 3 of said reset rebuild.
Although, I would feel catfished if I were the Samueli's because here is what PV said to the public when he was hired by the Ducks:
"This team doesn't need to be rebuilt; they're in the middle of their rebuild, so this is a great opportunity to take this team forward and turn them into a contender," Verbeek said during his introductory press conference. "You don't have to come in there and look to take a long time. There's good players in the NHL, good players in the minors and there are players that have been drafted. There's a lot coming to support the growth of this team. That's truly what I'm excited about."
The owners had to accept the catfish and the reset rebuild, which Verbeek said takes about five years. We are only at the start of year 3 of the rebuild. Minty and Leo look good at the NHL level. Sennecke is explosive in the OHL once he was able to get back into groove after a summer injury. Yet, I dunno if that's enough if year 2 of Cronin is a repeat of year 1 of Cronin. 10 games in, we're 4-4-2 (10 points) and at 0.500 to start year 2 of Cronin. In a vacuum, that looks great in the standings. Watching the games, it's a boring shellacking that's been propped up by Dostal's heroics. Gonna have to see what happens as the season progresses and we face stronger teams.
Dr Johnny Fever
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Or as I said before, maybe we hired the wrong coach to develop some pretty talented kids.
KelVarnsen
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Ding ding ding!!!!
A good coach would do wonders for this team. Cronin is so inept, he’s actually causing the youngster to be worse IMO.
Someone said Todd Mac would be a good option and I think I agree. I’d love to bring back BB to teach these kids how to play offense.
Cronut (OK, I'm keeping the auto correct) was only hired for 2 years, right? I thought I read that but can't find it now. I'd let him ride out the year (unless a really good coach becomes available and wants to sign here). Even if we can get a good one, maybe let them come in as a special consultant so they can watch what's going on behind the scenes and formulate a plan before taking over?
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