B-Sens 2024/25 Belleville Senators

[mianjo]

1-1

GOAL
#24 Jan Jenik (5) ASST: #19 Jamieson Rees (3), #20 Philippe Daoust (5) POWER PLAY
8:43

1-2

 

[mianjo]

BSens down 2-1 after 1

 

[mianjo]

BSens score but goal disallowed due to goalie interference

 

[mianjo]

BSens down 2-1 after 2

 

[mianjo]

2-2

BONGI

GOAL
#5 Wyatt Bongiovanni (13) ASST: #9 Angus Crookshank (5), #48 Filip Roos (6)
0:46

 

[mianjo]

2-3

BSens OG

 

[mianjo]

BSens lose 3-2

 

[aragorn]

I give Halliday at best 50/50 right now.
Don’t see him being a needle mover But hope I’m wrong.

Halliday IMO doesn't need to be a needle mover, right now he is a pt behind Pilon to lead Belleville in scoring & he is only 22 yrs old. Ott doesn't need him to start in the top nine either next yr & can slowly insert him into the lineup as we have seen them do with most young players. That way he can earn his ice time & where he plays in the lineup.

I wouldn't mind seeing a Ostapchuk - Halliday - MacEwan 4th line. Both MacEwan & Ostapchuk are big, tough & pretty good on the forecheck. Halliday brings some playmaking & pt production to the 4th line which would help Ott to have a 4th line that can produce some pts. Ostapchuk can also play 4th line centre, but I also like him on the wing, should be interesting & both players should help Ott next season.

 

[Ouroboros]

Halliday has nothing to offer an NHL 4th line. He's a powerplay specialist.

He's actually a very similar prospect to Egor Sokolov. Big guy, doesn't move particularly well, doesn't defend well, doesn't produce at even strength, not physical.

 

[Xspyrit]

Halliday has nothing to offer an NHL 4th line. He's a powerplay specialist.

He's actually a very similar prospect to Egor Sokolov. Big guy, doesn't move particularly well, doesn't defend well, doesn't produce at even strength, not physical.

How would you compare their skating? Didn't watch much of Belleville this season (and frankly, not really motivated due to the lack of legit prospects in there)

 

[aragorn]

Halliday has nothing to offer an NHL 4th line. He's a powerplay specialist.

He's actually a very similar prospect to Egor Sokolov. Big guy, doesn't move particularly well, doesn't defend well, doesn't produce at even strength, not physical.

Couturier started his pro career on the 4th line,. Halliday has offence he can add to a 4th line, not every player is going to play on the top 9, he can grow into it & the Sens have time to let him without pressure. Nothing wrong with him starting there.

 

[Ouroboros]

How would you compare their skating? Didn't watch much of Belleville this season (and frankly, not really motivated due to the lack of legit prospects in there)

Halliday isn't choppy and awkward they way Sokolov is, but his first few steps are not great and his top speed isn't anything remarkable.

I've seen ~12-14 Belleville games this season and I have to say that my opinion of Halliday has gone down. I'm finding it harder to project a role for him at the NHL level. Like a few of the other flavour of the week type prospects [Sokolov, Crookshank, Jarventie] he gets almost all of his points playing a role that he;ll never be good enough to occupy at the NHL level, and there's just not a lot of substance beyond that one thing.

Granted - he's a rookie and can still improve, but he's also 22 years old already.

 

[Ouroboros]

Couturier started his pro career on the 4th line,. Halliday has offence he can add to a 4th line, not every player is going to play on the top 9, he can grow into it & the Sens have time to let him without pressure. Nothing wrong with him starting there.

I don't see any point of comparison between Couturier and Halliday other than being tall.

Couturier was a Selke-calibre defender and high-end penalty killer at 19 years old. He's also been a very reliable even-strength point producer. Halliday has no impact on hockey games outside of putting up a few points on the right-flank of the powerplay, and he'll never be placed in that role in the NHL.

 

[aragorn]

I don't see any point of comparison between Couturier and Halliday other than being tall.

Couturier was a Selke-calibre defender and high-end penalty killer at 19 years old. He's also been a very reliable even-strength point producer. Halliday has no impact on hockey games outside of putting up a few points on the right-flank of the powerplay, and he'll never be placed in that role in the NHL.

He's second in scoring in Belleville one pt behind Pilon a vet.

 

[Ouroboros]

He's second in scoring in Belleville one pt behind Pilon a vet.

Doesn't matter. I'm not impressed by somebody who puts up 45-50 points on a bad AHL team, especially when ~60% of that offence comes on the powerplay. It's not projectable to the next level and it's not indicative of future success.

Halliday has 11 even-strength points in 42 AHL games - that's really poor. That's less than Zack MacEwen [12 in 24 games], less than Tyler Kleven [16 in 56 games], and less than Jiri Smejkal [16 in 47 games. It's only 2 more than Boko Imama who had 9 in 53 games.

Belleville have been outscored 32-16 with Halliday on the ice and the advanced stats generally suggest that he's a massive liability.

When I watch this player and dig into the numbers I just simply can't see a path to the NHL.