GDT: 2024-2025 Training Camp

[Randy Butternubs]

How did McGroarty look?

With his eyes.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I think it’s funny that there are more non-Penguins fans who care about how Puljujarvi is doing than Penguins fans who care about how well he’s doing

 

[Andy99]

Problem is that in a game like that, the Pens barely have the puck. Hard to make an assessment on skilled Forwards when they're just chasing the opposition the whole time.

True but one reason they were chasing were mistakes in their own end. Which McG admitted he was part of. I agree a team of mostly players who haven’t played in the NHL against NHL regulars is not good for assessment of the young players. So why did Sullivan do it unless he doesn’t intend to give these prospects a chance to play in the bigs? The best way to assess McG and others is to mix them on lines with NHL players, not throw them to the wolves…that’s why I think they’ll all be sent down lol

 

[SEALBound]

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Best shape of his life.
Angling for a NMC.

Lol, looks like he brought the Dallas Star's playbook as a bargaining chip

*Googles the box score of our 1st preseason game*

A loss where we got shitkicked by the f***ing Sabres.

How fittingly embarassing.

It’s gonna be a looooooonnnnnng year.

If "cringy takes based on box score watching" had a face...

 

[Andy99]

BTW, this was from RW’s blog this am…everyone’s favorite lol.. he trashed Graves lol

“Rutger McGroarty’s skating was a little below what I was anticipating. Not that he can’t be an effective professional, just that I thought it would be a little better. He will have to rely on his spatial awareness and his ability to see plays. This was just a first impression observation of one preseason game. It doesn’t define his career and I imagine, like for all players, the more NHL reps he gets the better things will be.”

HockeyBuzz.com - Ryan Wilson - Sabres give Penguins prospect a glimpse of NHL realities

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[Gurglesons]

BTW, this was from RW’s blog this am…everyone’s favorite lol.. he trashed Graves lol

“Rutger McGroarty’s skating was a little below what I was anticipating. Not that he can’t be an effective professional, just that I thought it would be a little better. He will have to rely on his spatial awareness and his ability to see plays. This was just a first impression observation of one preseason game. It doesn’t define his career and I imagine, like for all players, the more NHL reps he gets the better things will be.”

HockeyBuzz.com - Ryan Wilson - Sabres give Penguins prospect a glimpse of NHL realities

www.hockeybuzz.com

Honestly didn't see a single issue with McG's skating last night.

It's not a strength, but we all knew that coming in.

 

[Andy99]

Honestly didn't see a single issue with McG's skating last night.

It's not a strength, but we all knew that coming in.

It wasn’t the first thing I noticed either on replay…

 

[Ulf5]

Honestly didn't see a single issue with McG's skating last night.

It's not a strength, but we all knew that coming in.

It wasn’t the first thing I noticed either on replay…

Didn't get to see the game or McG.
Who's a better skater, McG or Boeser?

 

[Coastal Kev]

True but one reason they were chasing were mistakes in their own end. Which McG admitted he was part of. I agree a team of mostly players who haven’t played in the NHL against NHL regulars is not good for assessment of the young players. So why did Sullivan do it unless he doesn’t intend to give these prospects a chance to play in the bigs? The best way to assess McG and others is to mix them on lines with NHL players, not throw them to the wolves…that’s why I think they’ll all be sent down lol

like

 

[Empoleon8771]

I honestly feel like Koivunen's skating is a bigger issue than McGroarty's skating. McGroarty gets around just fine, his stride is just awkward and inefficient.

He has a super high hockey IQ and knows where to go, and I think you can get away with being a mediocre skater with that. The issue with bad skaters is when they don't have the hockey IQ to be able to anticipate where the puck will be going, I don't think McGroarty will have that problem.

 

[McGroarty2]

Problem is that in a game like that, the Pens barely have the puck. Hard to make an assessment on skilled Forwards when they're just chasing the opposition the whole time.

Yea, I watched it thinking this isn't really fair to the prospects. They should have had more NHL talent for proper assessment.

 

[Andy99]

Yea, I watched it thinking this isn't really fair to the prospects. They should have had more NHL talent for proper assessment.

Unless the coach has predetermined they will not be getting a NHL spot regardless lol

 

[Gurglesons]

It wasn’t the first thing I noticed either on replay…

But, it isn't a strength, what exactly were you expecting?

If McGroarty was at above average skating he would've been a prospect we likely couldn't acquire.

Much like Robertson, his neutral zone play more than made up for his skating IMO.

 

[Randy Butternubs]

I honestly feel like Koivunen's skating is a bigger issue than McGroarty's skating. McGroarty gets around just fine, his stride is just awkward and inefficient.

He has a super high hockey IQ and knows where to go, and I think you can get away with being a mediocre skater with that. The issue with bad skaters is when they don't have the hockey IQ to be able to anticipate where the puck will be going, I don't think McGroarty will have that problem.

Similar thing with Ilyin.

 

[Jacob]

The more I think about it the more I see Glass being waived. Reason being his high cap hit is going to put him in sort of a different category with different expectations than the league-minimum guys competing for the same spots (Poulin also being significantly younger). While we’re not up against the cap we can still save money by waiving him and sending him down due to the burial threshold, and there’s always the very slim chance someone claims him. It makes no sense to keep him as an extra forward at that cap hit, and if it’s between him and Puustinen as the 12th, you go with the cheaper guy all else being equal.

 

[Andy99]

The more I think about it the more I see Glass being waived. Reason being his high cap hit is going to put him in sort of a different category with different expectations than the league-minimum guys competing for the same spots (Poulin also being significantly younger). While we’re not up against the cap we can still save money by waiving him and sending him down due to the burial threshold, and there’s always the very slim chance someone claims him. It makes no sense to keep him as an extra forward at that cap hit, and if it’s between him and Puustinen as the 12th, you go with the cheaper guy all else being equal.

He hasn’t impressed so far or stand out compared to those guys…agree with you, however I feel like the organization feels the need to be proven right all the time and will refuse to do so lol

 

[Big Friggin Dummy]

Yeah, I'm not too worried about McG's skating. I think the issues are being overblown, and if he has the hockey IQ, he can more than make up for not being an exceptional skater. I hope he pans out and turns into that Kunitz/Hornqvist/Landeskog type, because having him be in his prime by the time this team's (hopefully) got a nice collection of top prospects down the road would be a huge help.

 

[Gurglesons]

The more I think about it the more I see Glass being waived. Reason being his high cap hit is going to put him in sort of a different category with different expectations than the league-minimum guys competing for the same spots (Poulin also being significantly younger). While we’re not up against the cap we can still save money by waiving him and sending him down due to the burial threshold, and there’s always the very slim chance someone claims him. It makes no sense to keep him as an extra forward at that cap hit, and if it’s between him and Puustinen as the 12th, you go with the cheaper guy all else being equal.

Sully was talking him up as a jack of all trades player who can move around the roster.

I highly doubt he gets waived. Would be cool if they did something like that.

 

[Darren McCord]

The more I think about it the more I see Glass being waived. Reason being his high cap hit is going to put him in sort of a different category with different expectations than the league-minimum guys competing for the same spots (Poulin also being significantly younger). While we’re not up against the cap we can still save money by waiving him and sending him down due to the burial threshold, and there’s always the very slim chance someone claims him. It makes no sense to keep him as an extra forward at that cap hit, and if it’s between him and Puustinen as the 12th, you go with the cheaper guy all else being equal.

It would be a good thing for him to get claimed if he doesn't make the team. They will have got 2 free picks, free of the cap hit and have less of a log jam in the bottom 6.

I am all for him getting claimed if he continues to disappoint this preseason

 

[Malkinstheman]

The more I think about it the more I see Glass being waived. Reason being his high cap hit is going to put him in sort of a different category with different expectations than the league-minimum guys competing for the same spots (Poulin also being significantly younger). While we’re not up against the cap we can still save money by waiving him and sending him down due to the burial threshold, and there’s always the very slim chance someone claims him. It makes no sense to keep him as an extra forward at that cap hit, and if it’s between him and Puustinen as the 12th, you go with the cheaper guy all else being equal.

I feel like all that really needs to happen is sending Rutger to the AHL and waiving Acciari. Then you can run this group:

Doc-Sid-Rust
Bunting-Geno-Rakell
Beau-Eller-Glass
Hayes-Lizotte-Poolparty/Puusty
Poulin

Pettersson-EK
Gryz-Letang
Graves-St.Ivany
Aho

This roster gives you 1.4m in cap space and you rotate Puusty/Poulin into the line-up if the new guys suck

 

[Empoleon8771]

I don't see any reason to waive Glass. At worst, he's a very useful 13th forward that can be used in a variety of roles. I don't see the argument of "he's too expensive to be a healthy scratch", either.

 

[Honour Over Glory]

We barely had a line up.

DOC would have been our best forward playing

Graves would be our best defensemen playing unless you want to say another defensemen name.

Buffalo played Power, Byram, Tage Thompson, Tuch etc.

This game was like the Sharks last year playing an AHL team.

Thank god this team hired that idiotic head coach of the Sharks last season as the new assistant.

 

[Ulf5]

It would be a good thing for him to get claimed if he doesn't make the team. They will have got 2 free picks, free of the cap hit and have less of a log jam in the bottom 6.

I am all for him getting claimed if he continues to disappoint this preseason

It would seems other teams could've had him for free with lesser picks than the Pens received at that cap hit. I highly doubt anyone claims him. Possibly Columbus since they're under the cap floor last time I looked.

 

[Empoleon8771]

I feel like all that really needs to happen is sending Rutger to the AHL and waiving Acciari. Then you can run this group:

Doc-Sid-Rust
Bunting-Geno-Rakell
Beau-Eller-Glass
Hayes-Lizotte-Poolparty/Puusty
Poulin

Pettersson-EK
Gryz-Letang
Graves-St.Ivany
Aho

This roster gives you 1.4m in cap space and you rotate Puusty/Poulin into the line-up if the new guys suck

I do think that Puljujarvi really strengthened his case to making the NHL roster with his performance yesterday, but I'm really skeptical that they keep both Puljujarvi and Puustinen as extras on this team.

Puljujarvi is definitely not getting claimed off waivers if you put him on waivers. I think it would make more sense to just have Poulin and Puustinen as extras and send Puljujarvi to the AHL.

 

[Darren McCord]

It would seems other teams could've had him for free with lesser picks than the Pens received at that cap hit. I highly doubt anyone claims him. Possibly Columbus since they're under the cap floor last time I looked.

OO i don't think he will get claimed. I am just saying to waive him and then who cares.

Puljujarvi is definitely not getting claimed off waivers if you put him on waivers. I think it would make more sense to just have Poulin and Puustinen as extras and send Puljujarvi to the AHL.

I actually think he would get claimed. He makes 800K and scored at a 10g pace playing 9 min a night in his short stint while coming back from major surgery. He is a good bottom 6 options and would not surprise me at all if he got claimed.