Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[Vaslof]

The cap is gonna be about 100 mill in 2 years. Even if we sign Mikko to 13 mill contract we’ll be ok. Next year it will hurt, but in 2 years it’ll be fine

Sure if it's a 2 year contract so we can give that to Makar in 2 years.

 

[BobRossColton]

Another interesting package I could think of, Nemec+Mercer?

 

[the_fan]

Sure if it's a 2 year contract so we can give that to Makar in 2 years.

Why? If the cap is 100 mill, you give Mikko 13(if not less) then you give Cale let’s say 14 mill, and MacK is at 12.6, you still have like 60 mill for rest of the team, and the cap will probably go up more

 

[Balthazar]

Why? If the cap is 100 mill, you give Mikko 13(if not less) then you give Cale let’s say 14 mill, you still have like 60 mill for rest of the team, but the cap will probably go up more

When the cap goes up it's not just the stars that go up, it's everyone on the team. You can't keep allowing all the new cap space to a single player like we did with Toews last year.

 

[the_fan]

When the cap goes up it's not just the stars that go up, it's everyone on the team. You can't keep allowing all the new cap space to a single player like we did with Toews last year.

60 mill is more than enough to give to other players and have a deep roster after signing Mikko and Cale to the salary I mentioned. We have everyone else locked up for a while

 

[expatriatedtexan]

60 mill is more than enough to give to other players and have a deep roster after signing Mikko and Cale to the salary I mentioned. We have everyone else locked up for a while

Spoken like a GM with only a year or so left.

 

[dahrougem2]

I've never really paid attention to Alex Nylander. Would he be worth claiming?

Slow and soft. No thank you.

 

[Vaslof]

Why? If the cap is 100 mill, you give Mikko 13(if not less) then you give Cale let’s say 14 mill, and MacK is at 12.6, you still have like 60 mill for rest of the team, and the cap will probably go up more

Why does Makar sign for that cheap? If Rantanen gets 13M and as you said the cap goes up for the next two years, then shouldnt Makar be more around 16-17M?

 

[the_fan]

Why does Makar sign for that cheap? If Rantanen gets 13M and as you said the cap goes up for the next two years, then shouldnt Makar be more around 16-17M?

I think 15 is a fair number for Cale. He seems like a type of person who would take a hometown discount

 

[niwotsblessing]

So Mikko’s 379 career assists didn’t benefit anyone else?

How many absolute snipes has Mikko had that not many other players score on has Mack assisted on?

what a rediculous post.

If you are looking for the ridiculous tony, read the way in which you twist so hard in response to my post you completely missed my point. Maybe your brain is twisted around from all the punches you absorbed as a player so we'll go easy on you.

And since you're the new kindergartener here maybe you can learn to play nice with others.

 

[the_fan]

Spoken like a GM with only a year or so left.

All I’m saying is…..

RE-SIGN THE MOOSE ALREADY!!!!!!

 

[The Merchant]

Slow and soft. No thank you.

Just the way she likes it

 

[the_fan]

Wanting Mikko traded now is like if you wanted Forsberg traded during Avs cup contention window back then. We had the one two punch of Sakic/Forsberg then, we have Nate/Mikko one two punch now. Can not trade Mikko period

 

[CobraAcesS]

All I’m saying is…..

RE-SIGN THE MOOSE ALREADY!!!!!!

Mmmmm, wait to see if this recent effort level is a new normal. If it is then I'm more ok with him making as much as Mack.

 

[the_fan]

Mmmmm, wait to see if this recent effort level is a new normal. If it is then I'm more ok with him making as much as Mack.

Regardless of effort and even if he really tries hard half the season, he still produces bunch of points. Not to mention his playoff performance. I just wish the whole trade Mikko talk would stop. He’s not getting traded. He’ll be re-signed

 

[TonyTwist]

Mikko gets you 50 goals. You trade him for 2 players who score 20 goals each, you still lose production and don’t gain depth. We will lose a Mikko trade unless we trade him for a winger that’s almost as good, like a Tkachuk or Marner or someone like that which won’t make sense because those players are also expensive

Amen.

There isn’t one possibility in which a Rantanen trade makes us better. Now or in the long run.

 

[Vaslof]

I think 15 is a fair number for Cale. He seems like a type of person who would take a hometown discount

Cap goes up by 10M. Rantanen gets a 4M raise. Makar gets a 6M raise. That's the extra space used. But consider this: Drouin needs a raise, Blackwood or some other goalie needs a raise, Mittelstadt needs a raise, Lehkonen needs a raise, maybe even Colton. Girard needs a new deal or a replacement, Manson needs a replacement. We can't fill all these holes. Drouin walks we save 1.5M (comparing to replacing with 1M players), Lehkonen walks we save 3.5M. Colton walks we save 3M. It's hard to say how much Mittelstadt will make, but we'd have 8M to spend on his raise and a 1G raise. Best case scenario half to each is enough: Mitts signs for around 10M and 1G for 5M. Girard/Manson may be replaceable at their current cost. So what we have is 4 top six forwards, 4 top four defenseman, 1 starter goalie. Compared to our current strength we leave holes at Drouins, Lehkonens and Coltons spots. LOC and Wood are in the top six. No money for a good backup goalie.

It's doable sure, but every penny counts.

 

[TonyTwist]

Mmmmm, wait to see if this recent effort level is a new normal. If it is then I'm more ok with him making as much as Mack.

He can crawl on all 4’s the whole game as far as Im concerned as long as he scores 50 and is top 5 in scoring

 

[the_fan]

Cap goes up by 10M. Rantanen gets a 4M raise. Makar gets a 6M raise. That's the extra space used. But consider this: Drouin needs a raise, Blackwood or some other goalie needs a raise, Mittelstadt needs a raise, Lehkonen needs a raise, maybe even Colton. Girard needs a new deal or a replacement, Manson needs a replacement. We can't fill all these holes. Drouin walks we save 1.5M (comparing to replacing with 1M players), Lehkonen walks we save 3.5M. Colton walks we save 3M. It's hard to say how much Mittelstadt will make, but we'd have 8M to spend on his raise and a 1G raise. Best case scenario half to each is enough: Mitts signs for around 10M and 1G for 5M. Girard/Manson may be replaceable at their current cost. So what we have is 4 top six forwards, 4 top four defenseman, 1 starter goalie. Compared to our current strength we leave holes at Drouins, Lehkonens and Coltons spots. LOC and Wood are in the top six. No money for a good backup goalie.

It's doable sure, but every penny counts.

This is if you assume the cap will go up by 10 mill and no more after that, but I don’t think it’s just gonna stop at that 10 mill. It’s probably keep going up to who knows how much

 

[TonyTwist]

Another interesting package I could think of, Nemec+Mercer?

Are they throwing in Hughes and a 1st too?

 

[TonyTwist]

If you are looking for the ridiculous tony, read the way in which you twist so hard in response to my post you completely missed my point. Maybe your brain is twisted around from all the punches you absorbed as a player so we'll go easy on you.

And since you're the new kindergartener here maybe you can learn to play nice with others.

You were the one saying Rantanen is a bystander and gets all his points because of Mackinnon.

I just proved to you it goes both ways.

 

[the_fan]

How many "next year it will hurt"'s are you willing to take during MacKinnon's prime?

It won’t because after Mikko and Cale we don’t have anymore big contracts to give out, and like I mentioned before, the cap will keep going up. Nate is signed, and after the big 3, the biggest contracts are Toews and Val who are signed long term. I’m not counting Landy because we don’t know if he’s coming back. If he does then that changes things a little but still doable

 

[Vaslof]

This is if you assume the cap will go up by 10 mill and no more after that, but I don’t think it’s just gonna stop at that 10 mill. It’s probably keep going up to who knows how much

Apparently there was an article fresh off the presses yesterday:

NHL salary cap projected to jump to at least $92.4 million next season, Bettman says | NHL.com

Commissioner also discusses Olympics, CBA at Board of Governors meeting

www.nhl.com

Projected only at a 4.4M increase for next year at the moment. I don't see the cap increasing significantly over 10M in two years.

There is one more question mark to our roster, the Landeskog contract. It could remain as dead cap space, but in best case scenario Landy returns at a top six level player or we use the 7M to grab a fifth top six player. Oh and I forgot LOC raise goes in effect NEXT season so that's 1.5M raise for him.

So roster would be something like:

Landeskog / 7M forward - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Nichushkin - Mittelstadt - LOC
Wood - 1M forward- 1M forward
1M forward - 1M forward - 1M forward

Makar - Toews
Girard / 5M defenseman - Manson replacement 4.5M
1M defenseman - 1M defenseman

5M goalie
1M goalie

I miscalculated the 1G raise, Blackwood makes around 2.5M now so adding 4M to that would help us get a 6.5M goalie, but I also forgot the LOC raise and we're back to a 5M goalie.

There's also the issue of where to get replacement players that are good enough for those cap hits.

If we could sign Rants/Makar to 11M and 13M instead of 13M and 15M, we would have enough to keep either Lehkonen or Drouin in addition to the roster above.

If we let Rants walk instead of paying 13M, we'd have enough to keep Lehkonen, Drouin, Colton or equivalent, and then an extra 4M to use on other positions. I guess you could forget about center depth and instead put the Colton money and the remaining money towards a top six forward at 7M. Would be more like this:

Landeskog / 7M forward - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - 7M forward
Wood - 1M forward - LOC
1M forward - 1M forward - 1M forward

Markar - Toews
Girard / 5M defenseman - Manson replacement 4.5M
1M defenseman - 1M defenseman

5M goalie
1M goalie

Generally I'd like to keep everyone who's been good for us rather than hope we find a better player for the same price. In any case cuts will have to be made, so it's not like we are free to give out favorable deals.

 

[Vaslof]

I think my ideal would be to sign Rantanen for 11M and Makar for 13M, which I hope is realistic, but who knows. Then have the Landeskog cap hit off the books if he retires early. In that case I believe we can keep both Drouin and Lehkonen, giving us a full top six with no need to replace forwards. If we can sign Blackwood as 1G for 5M and he can handle it, then we're fine on goalies. I could see Girard re-signing here for about the same cap hit. That all would only leave us to find a top four defenseman to replace Manson. We'd only be down a Colton sized hole on the 3rd line compared to our current strength.

 

[the_fan]

Apparently there was an article fresh off the presses yesterday:

NHL salary cap projected to jump to at least $92.4 million next season, Bettman says | NHL.com

Commissioner also discusses Olympics, CBA at Board of Governors meeting

www.nhl.com

Projected only at a 4.4M increase for next year at the moment. I don't see the cap increasing significantly over 10M in two years.

There is one more question mark to our roster, the Landeskog contract. It could remain as dead cap space, but in best case scenario Landy returns at a top six level player or we use the 7M to grab a fifth top six player. Oh and I forgot LOC raise goes in effect NEXT season so that's 1.5M raise for him.

So roster would be something like:

Landeskog / 7M forward - MacKinnon - Rantanen
Nichushkin - Mittelstadt - LOC
Wood - 1M forward- 1M forward
1M forward - 1M forward - 1M forward

Makar - Toews
Girard / 5M defenseman - Manson replacement 4.5M
1M defenseman - 1M defenseman

5M goalie
1M goalie

I miscalculated the 1G raise, Blackwood makes around 2.5M now so adding 4M to that would help us get a 6.5M goalie, but I also forgot the LOC raise and we're back to a 5M goalie.

There's also the issue of where to get replacement players that are good enough for those cap hits.

If we could sign Rants/Makar to 11M and 13M instead of 13M and 15M, we would have enough to keep either Lehkonen or Drouin in addition to the roster above.

If we let Rants walk instead of paying 13M, we'd have enough to keep Lehkonen, Drouin, Colton or equivalent, and then an extra 4M to use on other positions. I guess you could forget about center depth and instead put the Colton money and the remaining money towards a top six forward at 7M. Would be more like this:

Landeskog / 7M forward - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - 7M forward
Wood - 1M forward - LOC
1M forward - 1M forward - 1M forward

Markar - Toews
Girard / 5M defenseman - Manson replacement 4.5M
1M defenseman - 1M defenseman

5M goalie
1M goalie

Generally I'd like to keep everyone who's been good for us rather than hope we find a better player for the same price. In any case cuts will have to be made, so it's not like we are free to give out favorable deals.

I’ve heard the cap will be close to 100 mill in 2 years. If it stays at 92.4 then yeah, obviously that changes everything and we can’t afford few players when we re-sign Mikko and Cale. It can’t stay at 92.4, it’s gotta go up more