Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[the_fan]

Here's the thing, Rantanen is a huge part of this team's offense, and his production will be hard to replace.

However, we won the Cup with depth, and Rants making more than 12M puts a stranglehold on that. So it's quite the dilemma

Next season will be tough for the Avs as far as the cap goes, but the following year, the cap is projected to be close to 100 mill, so we should be fine

 

[Muffin]

I'd want a Brady Tkachuk+ package for a signed Rantanen from Ottawa. Perfect Landeskog replacement

 

[LOFIN]

Is this really from numerous insiders, or its more from you ? Honest question. Because I never heard that the Avs were offering less than $11M... That's very low based on reasonable comparables, so it would be very surprising. bordering impossible... Anything below $12M would be viewed as a bargain. Something starting with a $10M would be quite baffling... Just like something in excess of $14M would be.

It's not from me, but Nick Kypreos, who has proven to have sources around the league. He doesn't spew around much thsese days, but usually what he tends to say is accurate.

I'm not going to find the exact quote, but around a month ago he basically said that the number the Rantanen camp is asking is something along the lines of 11.8-12.4, and the Avs have had no interest in going anywhere near that. The front office/ownership don't see him as important as MacKinnon, and thus don't want to pay him that close to what MacKinnon makes.

 

[BobRossColton]

How about the devil's giving up Bratt+ if it got them 8 years of Mikko?

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I still want Olivier

 

[Pokecheque]

How about the devil's giving up Bratt+ if it got them 8 years of Mikko?

Won’t happen. They’d probably rather give up Meier and NO THANK YOU

 

[BobRossColton]

Won’t happen. They’d probably rather give up Meier and NO THANK YOU

Same, but I just like thinking of these. My top 3 choices are still Necas, Brady then Jarvis.

 

[Hasbro]

I'd want a Brady Tkachuk+ package for a signed Rantanen from Ottawa. Perfect Landeskog replacement

People in hell want ice water.

 

[JLo217]

I don't think anyone knows the right approach with Rantanen. Personally I view it in a few ways:

1. Assuming he signs for more than Mack - Keep him, management really needs to make sure they stack the deck to push hard for the cup at the TDL. This is likely the last real shot at a cup due to depth in the coming years. I just don't see how they afford it.

2. Assuming he won't sign, but Avs keep him for the PO's - Keep him, stack the deck at the Deadline. No assets coming back, so hopefully some depth can come in to backfill. Likely also the last shot at the cup in this window. But some cap room for goaltending and the rest of the roster.

3. Avalanche move him this season - The value I see here is you can bring in top 6 talent, gain some picks, prospects and other pieces that help offset the loss of scoring. Depth takes a hit this season, but likely keeps the team competitive for longer with more depth.

At this point i'd say gun it for the cup. In the offseason or last year I would've moved him to make more room for more depth and extend the window. It's hard to apply once you're into the last year of the contract.

 

[Balthazar]

Best case scenario would be sign him now for 8 years and trade him next summer.

New team gets an 8 year contract (they wouldn't get it otherwise) and Avs get their last shot with Rants + they can enjoy the cap space and a nice return for the next season.

Not happening but still the best case scenario. Then they can sign Makar for 15M X 8 in 2 years.

 

[AvsWraith]

I think Rants is gonna walk this summer.

Sakic and CMac want him to take a team friendly deal like Landy and Toews did, but he wants to cash out.

 

[Jasenr]

I think Rants is gonna walk this summer.

Sakic and CMac want him to take a team friendly deal like Landy and Toews did, but he wants to cash out.

Ofcourse I dont know Mikko but who wants to leave a team in cup window? With guys youve been playing your whole nhl career. If it comes to 1mil here or there he signs. If the office lowballs him too much then fire cmac.

 

[Bender]

Ofcourse I dont know Mikko but who wants to leave a team in cup window? With guys youve been playing your whole nhl career. If it comes to 1mil here or there he signs. If the office lowballs him too much then fire cmac.

A guy who's already won?

 

[Mighty Makar]

Trade him to Van for Miller.

 

[Bender]

Trade him to Van for Miller.

Vancouver doesn't make that deal without some sort of assurance that they can sign him. They're not trading Miller for a 'hope' that maybe they can re-sign Rantanen before he becomes a UFA.

 

[Jasenr]

A guy who's already won?

So why doesnt Malkin want to leave? Also why none of the Tampa guys wanted to leave. They won twice. Also Marchant and the guys are still in Boston.

Its like you think that they wont be friends after multiple years playing together. Why would they want to leave? I cant think any other reason that being forced by management or opportunism to gain something.

 

[LOFIN]

A guy who's already won?

Nothing Rantanen has said has ever indicated anything of the sorts. His priority #1 is winning.

 

[Mighty Makar]

Vancouver doesn't make that deal without some sort of assurance that they can sign him. They're not trading Miller for a 'hope' that maybe they can re-sign Rantanen before he becomes a UFA.

Yeah, they would have to know if Rants will sign with them for sure.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Rantanen will extend with Colorado.

I’d bet almost anything on it.

 

[Gumballhead]

I still want Olivier

I think I read he might be being extended. But yes, he’s a warrior type you’d like.

Rantanen will extend with Colorado.

I’d bet almost anything on it.

Yeah it seems like a foregone conclusion and it’s only worth it if we win another Cup during his prime then we’ll be talking about this forever. At his worst he’s Burakovsky.

 

[Bender]

So why doesnt Malkin want to leave? Also why none of the Tampa guys wanted to leave. They won twice. Also Marchant and the guys are still in Boston.

Its like you think that they wont be friends after multiple years playing together. Why would they want to leave? I cant think any other reason that being forced by management or opportunism to gain something.

You asked : "Ofcourse I dont know Mikko but who wants to leave a team in cup window?"

I answered a hypothetical question. I don't know why he'd want to leave... it's just a guess.

While we're at it I don't know why someone who's ALREADY made $52 MILLION dollars over the past SIX YEARS would be offered something around $10M per year for something like 7-8 years and actually turn it down because it's 'not enough'. Why does anyone do anything ?

 

[The Abusement Park]

not a trade proposal but more on the discussion of having rants vs depth.

I'd rather the combined salaries and players of Cirelli + Hagel on this time vs just 1 rantanen and his new 2025 salary

Vegas and Florida and even Dallas' success of late shows u dont need a winger like Rants to win a cup

drouin - mack - nuke
hagel - mitts - cirelli
lehks - colton - LOC

wow

In theory a trade like this makes sense. But why would Tampa bay do this?

 

[Foppa2118]

Girard has played far too well this season to be moved. He even wins a ton more board and corner battles. He has clearly gotten stronger.

I think he's played ok recently, and generally speaking I would be surprised if he's moved, but we haven't already forgotten what a terrible start he had to the season have we? He was really not good in a lot of games. Lots of mistakes and goals against directly off those mistakes.

 

[expatriatedtexan]

With regards to how to handle Mikko.

I think the Avs and him should just agree to get together when the league restarts after the holidays and put in one last, big, honest effort to get a deal signed. If they can't by the fourth week of January, I think CMac should seriously ask Rants who he would like to play for and start negotiating either a trade for the deadline or...and this would be my preference, a sign and deal for the summer after the playoffs. It would allow him to get that 8 year deal with another team and hopefully we can get more from this situation than we did from Stastny.

 

[MacKaRant]

It's not from me, but Nick Kypreos, who has proven to have sources around the league. He doesn't spew around much thsese days, but usually what he tends to say is accurate.

I'm not going to find the exact quote, but around a month ago he basically said that the number the Rantanen camp is asking is something along the lines of 11.8-12.4, and the Avs have had no interest in going anywhere near that. The front office/ownership don't see him as important as MacKinnon, and thus don't want to pay him that close to what MacKinnon makes.

I find it hard to believe that the Avs wouldn't be okay with 11.8 million AAV considering the player, the rising cap, comparables, and the fact they do not have enough assets to acquire players that would replace his production. Something doesn't add up