Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Why the f*** would the Avs trade for Gibson AND Fowler?

If we accrue enough disappointment on one squad it will inevitably turn the ship around

 

[dahrougem2]

Why the f*** would the Avs trade for Gibson AND Fowler?

The rationale for me is simple:

- Gets the Avs a similar defensman to Girard who is a bit bigger
- Gets the Avs their best shot at a really good goaltender. Yes, there's huge risk given his play the last several years but you aren't going to find a good-to-great goalie available league-wide.
- Allows the Avs to not only jettison Georgiev but Wood as well, and if the Ducks were willing to retain on Fowler or Gibson it could give the Avs the necessary cap space to bring Landeskog and Nichushkin back without issues.

Obviously it's a massive trade that is far-fetched but in an ideal world for me personally:

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Rantanen
Landeskog - Colton - Kovalenko
Kelly - Ivan - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Fowler - Manson
Ludvig - Malinski

Gibson
Kahkonen

With a deadline deal or two to shore up the 4th line/3rd pair would be unreal GMing.

 

[BobRossColton]

My two thoughts are blackwood+Ferraro so our defense could be -wood -georgie
Toews Makar
Girard Manson
Ferraro Malinski

Or blackwood+dellandrea -colton -Georgie
Use dellandrea as 3c

 

[Pokecheque]

My two thoughts are blackwood+Ferraro so our defense could be -wood -georgie
Toews Makar
Girard Manson
Ferraro Malinski

Or blackwood+dellandrea -colton -Georgie
Use dellandrea as 3c

Blackwood IMO would not be worth getting unless he were the #2 and even then I wouldn't be thrilled about it. On top of not being a legit starter, Blackwood is horribly injury prone.

 

[Pokecheque]

The rationale for me is simple:

- Gets the Avs a similar defensman to Girard who is a bit bigger
- Gets the Avs their best shot at a really good goaltender. Yes, there's huge risk given his play the last several years but you aren't going to find a good-to-great goalie available league-wide.
- Allows the Avs to not only jettison Georgiev but Wood as well, and if the Ducks were willing to retain on Fowler or Gibson it could give the Avs the necessary cap space to bring Landeskog and Nichushkin back without issues.

Obviously it's a massive trade that is far-fetched but in an ideal world for me personally:

Drouin - MacKinnon - Nichushkin
Lehkonen - Mittelstadt - Rantanen
Landeskog - Colton - Kovalenko
Kelly - Ivan - O'Connor

Toews - Makar
Fowler - Manson
Ludvig - Malinski

Gibson
Kahkonen

With a deadline deal or two to shore up the 4th line/3rd pair would be unreal GMing.

Fowler's always been a weird one. Despite being a really productive blueliner his underlying numbers have always been horrific.

*cue Hasbro coming off the top rope with STATWHACKERS tattooed on his forehead*

Part of this is, of course, exaggerated a bit because of the respective teams each guy is on, but I just don't think Fowler works unless you can shelter the shit outta him, and the Avs can't do that.

 

[dahrougem2]

Fowler's always been a weird one. Despite being a really productive blueliner his underlying numbers have always been horrific.

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*cue Hasbro coming off the top rope with STATWHACKERS tattooed on his forehead*

Part of this is, of course, exaggerated a bit because of the respective teams each guy is on, but I just don't think Fowler works unless you can shelter the shit outta him, and the Avs can't do that.

I think the Avs can absolutely shelter Fowler. If you pair him with Manson and you ensure he's on the ice with Mittelstadt's line or Landeskog's line should he return, he'd have great defensive forwards assisting him.

It's a swing-for-the-fences move to try winning more cups over the next 2 seasons.

 

[Pokecheque]

I think the Avs can absolutely shelter Fowler. If you pair him with Manson and you ensure he's on the ice with Mittelstadt's line or Landeskog's line should he return, he'd have great defensive forwards assisting him.

It's a swing-for-the-fences move to try winning more cups over the next 2 seasons.

If anything, Sammy has had to shelter Manson the last season-plus.

But hell, I'll take anything at this point.

 

[henchman21]

Gibson is probably the only non-George/3G goalie type out there (he's arguably in that same headcase mold too, but ignoring that). I honestly wouldn't mind grabbing him. It would be against what the Avs have done unless they get significant retention on him. Which would cost quite a bit.

I don't think Fowler is an upgrade on G either, so I'd probably eliminate that.

George + 2nd + rando prospect for Gibson (50%) would be highly intriguing... risky too. If Gibson got back in form, he's a top 5-10 goalie talent. There are signs the dude is just getting hammered in specific areas where a lot of goalies would struggle... also signs that he may have just lost his game.

I think the Avs wait this out though... wait for a Binnington type to come on the market. Or if that type doesn't come up, they go with somebody like a Blackwood.

 

[Pokecheque]

I've always maintained that ALL goalies are headcases to an extent, hell, even a few of the ones I played with in B-level youth hockey were nutjobs.

I think they've gotta do something though. They're simply not a good enough team to bury themselves by December like Edmonton did and then just explode once the calendar turns to make it all the way to the Final. If nothing else, they have to find a worthwhile #2, and deal with whatever fallout takes place with Georgiev after that.