Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[Alienblood]

Moving Byram was likely the correct move, but it likely should have been done earlier.

What I don't like about CMac more than anything else is this 'building' for the future while trying to win. This team has a very limited window right now (if it even is open), and we're heading the way of the Penguins here soon. Gotta be willing to really push. I don't fault last deadline because you can only make so many moves and he made a lot. It is outside that where this issue comes in. IMO CMac needs to have a really good deadline.

yes he will possibly have to sell

 

[Balthazar]

I see Georgiev as a big pro scouting win. Nearly 80 wins and Vezina votes for a career back-up is massive. The failure is by management not making a change this past summer when it's been clear for a while that the wheels have fallen off.

Could be a coincidence but Georgiev fell apart the minute he didn't have a real backup behind him. It's a possibility that he put all the pressure on himself knowing that no one could help if he failed, which lead to this.

Ironically, the other goalie that I've seen with a similar issue was Francouz. He was good as long as the other guy was healthy (the only exception was the Edmonton series where he was OK). This was especially true in the Grubauer era...he was a good backup then Gru would get hurt and all of a sudden Francouz would absolutely suck. That shit really pissed me off.

 

[Avs9296]

Could be a coincidence but Georgiev fell apart the minute he didn't have a real backup behind him. It's a possibility that he put all the pressure on himself knowing that no one could help if he failed, which lead to this.

Ironically, the other goalie that I've seen with a similar issue was Francouz. He was good as long as the other guy was healthy (the only exception was the Edmonton series where he was OK). This was especially true in the Grubauer era...he was a good backup then Gru would get hurt and all of a sudden Francouz would absolutely suck. That shit really pissed me off.

Frankie was more than "ok" in the Edmonton series.

Off topic but perhaps lost in the doom and gloom of this season so far is that Mittelstadt looks very, very good. A little bit quicker, a little bit better conditioning it seems, and he's playing like a legit 2C, even an upper echelon 2C.

So that's good at least

 

[dahrougem2]

Mittelstadt looks tremendous. Imagine when he plays with legit NHL scoring wingers. That's no slight to Kovalenko, either, but the guy isn't established enough yet. He also seems to be a pass-first offensive player which isn't what Mittelstadt needs.

 

[henchman21]

yes he will possibly have to sell

Selling is an inevitability at some point, but it won't be this season.

 

[Alienblood]

Selling is an inevitability at some point, but it won't be this season.

I just mean if they are out of the playoffs. Maybe Manson, Lehky and Colton and possibly Wood.

 

[henchman21]

I just mean if they are out of the playoffs. Maybe Manson, Lehky and Colton and possibly Wood.

The Avs would load up instead of sell. Even with the struggles so far, the Avs are not missing the playoffs. But even if you think the Avs will miss... will they be so far out of the wild card race that they'll give up? To me it is quite the leap to think this team won't at minimum be over 90 points and in the race. With this core, while there is even a remote chance, they are buyers.

Now it can be debated if that is the smart strategy, but they aren't selling.

I do think that if the Avs fail badly again this year (meaning 2nd round exit or earlier) we are in for a summer of changes.

 

[Alienblood]

The Avs would load up instead of sell. Even with the struggles so far, the Avs are not missing the playoffs. But even if you think the Avs will miss... will they be so far out of the wild card race that they'll give up? To me it is quite the leap to think this team won't at minimum be over 90 points and in the race. With this core, while there is even a remote chance, they are buyers.

Now it can be debated if that is the smart strategy, but they aren't selling.

I do think that if the Avs fail badly again this year (meaning 2nd round exit or earlier) we are in for a summer of changes.

I don't think Landy will be back anytime soon. You know the old saying about being out of the playoffs around American Thanksgiving.

I'm not expecting them to miss but it wouldn't shock me

 

[henchman21]

I don't think Landy will be back anytime soon. You know the old saying about being out of the playoffs around American Thanksgiving.

I'm not expecting them to miss but it wouldn't shock me

We had the Blues recently win a Cup and just last year the Oilers made a run to the finals despite that old saying. I think it is clearly a myth and you can overcome bad starts with a good team. Bad teams are just bad teams.

I'd personally be shocked if the Avs missed. It would take something pretty serious and explainable to happen. Like MacK or Makar having a season ending injury or something like that.

 

[The Moops]

Personally, I'd get rid of the dummy because dumb as f*** hockey players don't win games in the playoffs.

 

[LOFIN]

What the HFAvs need at times like this is @Sea Eagles

 

[The Moops]

What the HFAvs need at times like this is @Sea Eagles

He is sorely missed

 

[AvStock]

He is sorely missed

What happened to him

 

[LOFIN]

What happened to him

The doomers of HFAvs got tired of his positivity and optimism, and basically bullied him away.

 

[Muffin]

The doomers of HFAvs got tired of his positivity and optimism, and basically bullied him away.

I mean there's positivity and optimism and then there's whatever he was on.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

One thing that cannot be taken from Sea Eagles is how much he loved this team, and he was chased away unnecessarily because he showed his support differently than others. Damn shame.

 

[henchman21]

I'd love @Sea Eagles back, but his first positive post on Georgiev would lead to a pure meltdown here.

 

[missionAvs]

I'd love @Sea Eagles back, but his first positive post on Georgiev would lead to a pure meltdown here.

I'd come in guns blazing if I saw a positive George post. I'm talking pure vicious as if someone kicked my dog or something.

 

[hockeyfish]

I'd love @Sea Eagles back, but his first positive post on Georgiev would lead to a pure meltdown here.

I'm not even sure the great Sea Eagles could defend this.

 

[Murzu]

I'm not even sure the great Sea Eagles could defend this.

 

[Balthazar]

The doomers of HFAvs got tired of his positivity and optimism, and basically bullied him away.

This was his last post..it's not that bad. Especially from Pierce.

 

[SirLoinOfCloth]

This was his last post..it's not that bad. Especially from Pierce.

You see this all too often here, though. People who can't disagree without making it personal. Attack the opinion not the poster. Saying you'd rather than 10 of one poster than a single 1 of another is pretty harsh. I don't blame Sea Eagles for leaving, and to be honest it was more than this one post, this is likely just the post that broke the camel's back. His opinions were constantly under fire because he dared to disagree with the group-think. What's the point in a discussion forum if all you get is an echo chamber of opinions.

 

[Balthazar]

People who can't disagree without making it personal. Attack the opinion not the poster.

I agree but only a couple of regular posters do that.

His opinions were constantly under fire because he dared to disagree with the group-think.

I don't agree with that. Most people either liked or ignored him.

 

[JLo217]

I love Landy but this wait and see game is old.

 

[LOFIN]

I love Landy but this wait and see game is old.