Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[LOFIN]

The sad part is cMac has pretty much lost all leverage in negotiations with Rantanen's camp in waiting this long. The guy is 8 months away from 32 teams clawing over themselves to offer him as much money as possible.

Any contract Mikko accepts with the Avs now is going to horrible for the Avs.

What specific leverage CMac and the Avs ever had? He has put up elite numbers consistently for the last few years.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[henchman21]

I was told Ullmark wouldn’t re-sign in Ottawa.

We’re in the midst of a solid resetting of the goalie market. After the resetting for the center market. Naturally wings and defensemen will follow.

 

[EdAVSfan]

The sad part is cMac has pretty much lost all leverage in negotiations with Rantanen's camp in waiting this long. The guy is 8 months away from 32 teams clawing over themselves to offer him as much money as possible.

Any contract Mikko accepts with the Avs now is going to horrible for the Avs.

I don’t believe he ever had any to begin with.

Rantanen was always one year from UFA. Whether that’s 10 months from UFA, or 8, don’t see any difference.

 

[Vaslof]

The sad part is cMac has pretty much lost all leverage in negotiations with Rantanen's camp in waiting this long. The guy is 8 months away from 32 teams clawing over themselves to offer him as much money as possible.

Any contract Mikko accepts with the Avs now is going to horrible for the Avs.

Eh I think he still has as much as he had to begin with. If it drags out to summer, that's when he loses leverage, because he needs to know how the Rants situation goes before building the rest of the team.

 

[Mooserton]

I don’t believe he ever had any to begin with.

Rantanen was always one year from UFA. Whether that’s 10 months from UFA, or 8, don’t see any difference.

The difference in your example is 2 months. I hope that helps!

 

[chet1926]

The sad part is cMac has pretty much lost all leverage in negotiations with Rantanen's camp in waiting this long. The guy is 8 months away from 32 teams clawing over themselves to offer him as much money as possible.

Any contract Mikko accepts with the Avs now is going to horrible for the Avs.

Unless he does us a favor, which I don't see Rantanen or his agent doing.

At this point with no extension in place, I'd prefer to seek a trade as that contract is going to be ugly.

They've had plenty of time this summer to get something hammered out. This tells me that they really aren't very close.

Could be wrong but I don't envision this ending up positively for the Avs.

Ugh, that's a hideous contact.

 

[LOFIN]

They've had plenty of time this summer to get something hammered out. This tells me that they really aren't very close.

Could be wrong but I don't envision this ending up positively for the Avs.

I don't really get the panic on this. His contract might end up looking expensive, but lets remember that MacKinnon signed his extension 1 day before the training camp. The captain of this team was ONE DAY away from UFA when they re-signed him. Pastrnak and Nylander got their extensions after new year.

 

[Balthazar]

Ugh, that's a hideous contact.

That’s a great contract. The fear was him asking for 6+ years. It’s tough to get shorter contracts on older UFA’s that are still good. They want to maximize their career earnings while they still have some leverage . The Sens core is already signed for many more years so Ullmark getting 4 years at a higher AAV doesn’t hurt them

 

[henchman21]

I think people are less worried about Rantanen's contract getting done and more worried about what it will look like. It clearly is a situation where it isn't an 'easy' contract. IE if Rants was willing for 10m for 8 years, this was done July 1. How far he is willing to push it is the real question... we're seeing a continual resetting of amounts. It wouldn't be unreasonable for Rantanen to seek that for himself.

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844029680690835577

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

I was told Ullmark wouldn’t re-sign in Ottawa.

We’re in the midst of a solid resetting of the goalie market. After the resetting for the center market. Naturally wings and defensemen will follow.

Linus, we'd like to offer you an new contract to re-sign here.

I already told you that I don't want...

Will give you a 4-year deal, with an $8....

YES!

Let me finish. $8...

YES!

 

[Bender]

Unless he does us a favor, which I don't see Rantanen or his agent doing.

At this point with no extension in place, I'd prefer to seek a trade as that contract is going to be ugly.

They've had plenty of time this summer to get something hammered out. This tells me that they really aren't very close.

Could be wrong but I don't envision this ending up positively for the Avs.


Ugh, that's a hideous contact.

Actually, I think there's a good chance this does end up pretty good for the Avs. I'm actually pretty happy that he's unsigned right now. (preferred traded)

Hench is right, if the Rantanen camp was willing to do 10M for 8 years, this would have been done a long time ago.

I see it this way -> what kind of numbers would Rantanen have to put up this season for him to get A LOT MORE than what he's probably already asking for right now ?

I mean if he's going to lead the league in scoring and win the MVP, sure he'd get a lot more but as of right now - the Avs probably don't have much to gain to re-sign him apart from making sure they keep him with the team long-term.

Sure, there's a chance he could very well walk away at the end of the season - and I have a strong feeling that IF that happens, it's going to be because Avs management have seen a lot of the worrisome aspects of his game that a lot of people (who actually watch the games and get what's going on) have also seen. There are a lot of people who share this opinion while many others who simply point at the scoresheet to suggest that he's producing so there is no real problem there.

If the Avs don't win the Cup and he puts forth the same kind of effort that we saw last season, I hope we don't re-sign him at all.

 

[henchman21]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1844029680690835577

Grubi will be bought out just in time for the Avs to sign him back and replace George!