Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | The Slow Crawl to the Season

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

But how? How is saying this will bring more money to Rantanen? What's the path?

The Avs know if they are getting calls or not.

They are trying to negotiate through the media, put the pressure on the Avs.

 

[Avs_19]

I'll be shocked if Mikko isn't signed long-term, as he should be, but you know who would look good on this team? A 24 year old Svechnikov signed for three more years at $7.75M/yr.

 

[Metallo]

I'm assuming that if we trade an extended Rants to Carolina Necas++ is coming this way.

I would take that deal even if the second "+" is just a + written on a piece of paper and the first "+" only means that said piece of paper is what is added to Necas.

 

[Balthazar]

They are trying to negotiate through the media, put the pressure on the Avs.

Not in this case. Nothing that was said by Seravalli and Kyper puts any pressure on the Avs.

All they said was that the Avs were getting calls. If true the Avs are already aware, if not the Avs can dismiss it.

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

Not in this case. Nothing that was said by Seravalli and Kyper puts any pressure on the Avs.

All they said was that the Avs were getting calls. If true the Avs are already aware, if not the Avs can dismiss it.

It's more the "Rantanen wants 14+, but Avs don't want to; Avs can't just let him walk! They can't trade him or it'll irk Cale and Nate!"

 

[SoundwaveIsCharisma]

I'll be shocked if Mikko isn't signed long-term, as he should be, but you know who would look good on this team? A 24 year old Svechnikov signed for three more years at $7.75M/yr.

I'd want one of Svechnikov or Necas and Nikishin

 

[Balthazar]

It's more the "Rantanen wants 14+, but Avs don't want to; Avs can't just let him walk! They can't trade him or it'll irk Cale and Nate!"

Meh. Bring in Necas and use the extra cap space on other players and see what Mack and Cale have to say. I don't think this puts pressure on the Avs.

Also if management truly believe that Landy is ever coming back something like a Necas/Rants swap would be their way out of cap hell.

 

[LOFIN]

Long term contracts are looked at overall value in mind. When Rantanen camp says they can get 14M from the open market, that translates to 12.25M with the Avs. Because there's no way their camp thinks someone is going to pay Rantanen 16M in the open market. Liut is not that stupid. Seravalli might be.

 

[ABasin]

You stop! Pls!

I hate that f**kin movie!

 

[The Abusement Park]

People absolutely loathed Bura when he was here, but are now pining for Necas to replace Rants? Interesting.

 

[LOFIN]

Did not expect that

 

[Gumballhead]

Did not expect that

Mildly surprising I guess. Now they can just dump him -- or would they actually want him in the AHL?

 

[PAZ]

But how? How is saying this will bring more money to Rantanen? What's the path?

The Avs know if they are getting calls or not.

The tactic doesn't really work with the Avs being a smaller-market team, but going to the media is a normal tactic. You can argue how helpful it actually is, but i'd be surprised if it wasn't the agent 'leaking' this information.

 

[Richard88]

Wouldn't be surprised if someone trades for Puljujarvi now that he's cleared. There's value in having roster and cap flexibility after a player has cleared waivers, especially for cap teams. Also nice to have a depth piece like that stashed in the AHL if he'd agree to it.

Guessing his agent is also gonna be putting pressure on Dubas to find him a new team.

 

[BobRossColton]

If they (canes) need to make some room, extended Mikko+ Malinski for Necas+chatfield

 

[Jasenr]

I think trading for Mikko replacement is kinda stupid if his not making 8-9mil for 3-4 years ahead.

Necas is due to sign new contract after next season. So his gonna ask 13mil then. So will you boot him too? All the hassle for 1 extra year of a player who is new to the team.

Also trading Mikko is propably only possible after signing him long term. No-one is trading us for rental Mikko...

Meh. Bring in Necas and use the extra cap space on other players and see what Mack and Cale have to say. I don't think this puts pressure on the Avs.

Also if management truly believe that Landy is ever coming back something like a Necas/Rants swap would be their way out of cap hell

 

[BobRossColton]

I think trading for Mikko replacement is kinda stupid if his not making 8-9mil for 3-4 years ahead.

Necas is due to sign new contract after next season. So his gonna ask 13mil then. So will you boot him too? All the hassle for 1 extra year of a player who is new to the team.

Also trading Mikko is propably possible after signing him long term. No-one is trading us for rental Mikko...

Necas will not ask for a double pay raise, he'll probably end up in the 9-10m

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Draft Rimpinen..

Profit

 

[Pokecheque]

I think trading for Mikko replacement is kinda stupid if his not making 8-9mil for 3-4 years ahead.

Necas is due to sign new contract after next season. So his gonna ask 13mil then. So will you boot him too? All the hassle for 1 extra year of a player who is new to the team.

Also trading Mikko is propably only possible after signing him long term. No-one is trading us for rental Mikko...

People pay big for rentals all the time, rarely is there a sign and trade even though the CBA is set up to encourage them.

It’s only if the player flat out says they’re testing the market does it truly hurt their trade value but that’s pretty rare

 

[Balthazar]

Necas is due to sign new contract after next season. So his gonna ask 13mil then.

What? No.

People absolutely loathed Bura when he was here, but are now pining for Necas to replace Rants? Interesting.

Interesting that you think they play the same kind of game?

 

[Balthazar]

People pay big for rentals all the time, rarely is there a sign and trade even though the CBA is set up to encourage them.

It’s only if the player flat out says they’re testing the market does it truly hurt their trade value but that’s pretty rare

Off the top of my head it happened with Tkachuk and Turris but I'm likely forgetting plenty of others.

If Rant wants to go to Carolina and they offer him the money he wants we can sign him for 8 years and trade him there.

 

[hockeyfish]

I'd want one of Svechnikov or Necas and Nikishin

Damn, I would love Svechnikov.

 

[LOFIN]

Rantanen isn't going anywhere mid-season. If he walks, he walks. He will not be traded.

 

[Colorado Avalanche]

Rantanen isn't going anywhere mid-season. If he walks, he walks. He will not be traded.

Yep, thats clear at this point.

 

[Balthazar]

Rantanen isn't going anywhere mid-season. If he walks, he walks. He will not be traded.

Yep, thats clear at this point.

I disagree. If anything the Blackwood situation clearly showed us that CMac is trying hard to protect the little assets he has left.

If he knows he can't keep Mikko and the return can help him now (for this season) and for future years I'm confident that he'll pull the trigger.