John Mandalorian
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In the meantime, the top guys will average 27 minutes a game to bail out McFarland/Bednar on their decision to stick with Georgiev.
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In the meantime, the top guys will average 27 minutes a game to bail out McFarland/Bednar on their decision to stick with Georgiev.
Linds
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It's disgusting that 4Giev is getting the start tonight. How can JB be so dumb, the team doesn't even play the same infront of him
John Mandalorian
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If they start Wedgewood too much, he’ll eventually have bad games and get shipped out of town.
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Jasenr
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We need to up his trade value which on the other hand is a slippery slope...
Couple wins and then pull the trigger if possible.
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Avs44
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How on earth do so many of you keep placing the goalie mess on Bednar. This is all CMac.
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Yes, one back to back isn't going to kill the backup to play both games. Avs don't give up many shots either.
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It goes like this: Annunen stepped in and was doing ok for several games. Then Bednar shoehorned Georgiev back into the lineup for several games causing Annunen to lose his rhythm. Then when Annunen struggled, he was scapegoated and shipped out. And along the way, Bednar was critical of Annunen but blindly defends Georgiev.
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He keeps playing George when there's other options and defends the shit out of him in the post game interviews. Any other goalie he calls them out
dahrougem2
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You don't play a career backup in both games of a back to back. Come on, now.
Linds
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100%
Why not, JB plays the trio 25+ minutes a night even on back to backs. Avs need to win games now. If cmac trades for a goalie at the deadline the Avs might not even be in a playoff spot at that point
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By "other options" you mean Scott Wedgewood? Or before that the also terrible Annunen? Come on, now. You're demonstrating my point. Some of you keep acting as if Bednar has a plethora of quality other options he just refuses to turn to. In reality, each of his options is absolute shit. 100% of the blame here falls on management.
dahrougem2
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Do you realize that even the best starters in this league don't play back to backs? Even historic greats didn't, but you want Scott Wedgewood to?
I'd play him again, though not both games. Clearly he earned the next start..
I guess you can make the argument it's less likely Detroit lights up 4Giev than NJ, but I'd rather get the team back on track.
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I say start Georgiev both games back to back. The more he gets lit up, the more it will force CMac to trade for a goalie
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Really they're just trying to retool already and Cmac hasn't told anyone he's tanking the season. Except Mikko found out and is refusing to sign now.
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Also they’ve fired Bednar but he’s still behind the bench, he’s just not getting paid
Or listened to, Georgiev is the captain now.
Bill Peckerskull
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Always makes me laugh when agents/GM's leak that he'd be "getting a higher AAV on the open market" for older UFA's that sign max term.
It's 7 years instead of 8 and he's going to be 38. At the end of his career he's taking home more money with the lower AAV and the 8th year, he's not doing the team a favor.
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I'm equating injury to what happened with Val because they both result in the same thing - the player is suddenly and unexpectedly unavailable. The rest is all subjective.
As was already pointed out, the fact that the Seattle series even went to game 7 is the problem. Yes, Nuke could have made a difference in both series. No one is disputing that. I'm disputing the narrative that he was the main factor in losing those series, which is what is implied when anyone claims he cost the team two wasted years. I see that idea all the time around here. Yeah, his actions were a factor, but again, if one top six winger is the difference between winning and losing, there are more problems than just him.
I get why you'd be angry about this, and if your view of drug addicts is they are selfish pieces of shit, then it makes some sense. But that's not the only way to look at it. Heck, lots of people think Nuke was only playing so well because of the drugs - maybe he thought he was actually helping the team, and never expected to get caught. It's not like the NHL has a strong history of catching people for drug use.
I don't think it takes any extraordinary leadership to say something like, "OK guys, I know this sucks. I know a lot of you are angry. But nothing outside this room matters. We have to find a way to win with the people in this room. It's next man up. Let's go!"
Now, that alone wouldn't do it. You would need a strong culture already in place, and the person saying that would need to be a leader everyone respects. Being able to adjust to sudden changes and roll with the punches is something this team had during the cup run.
Maybe we disagree on this, but I thought that third suspension was based more reputation than anything else. In any case, are you trying to say that it was the right move for the Leafs to trade Kadri? Because that's my point. I believes it was a mistake for the Leafs to trade Kadri based on a narrative, just as it would be a mistake for the Avs to trade Nuke based on a narrative.
I think you're confusing correlation with causation. We don't know why MacKinnon started slumping at that time. Maybe he was dealing with an injury. Maybe he was tired. Maybe he had something going on in his personal life. Maybe it was bad luck. To act like Nuke is the only possible reason for this slump is a sign that you're replaced your logical thinking with this narrative you have going.
Alternate theory: Bednar believes that the team isn't going anywhere this season with Annunen as their starter. He has seen Georgiev play well in the past, and since he's not the GM, his only choice it to try his best to rehabilitate Georgiev's game. So, when the team plays really well in front of Annunen and he has a good game, Bednar decides to put Georgiev in net and hopes the team plays as well with him in as they did with Annunen.
Plus, let's imagine CMac recognizes the issue and is working the phone trying to trade away Georgiev and get a new starter. Would it help or hurt the GM if the head coach is repeatedly criticizing the player he is trying to trade?
I'm not saying that my theory is right, but what you're saying is not the only way to interpret events.
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