Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

[hockeyfish]

I disagree. Dobson would be severely under-utilized here.
He’s not getting prime minutes nor top PP.

He would use up more assets and be a worse fit IMO.

And his next deal is going to cost a ton. Easy pass.

 

[PAZ]

The big boys are on CapWages

Big boys can’t change the cap or year, unless it’s changed recently.

 

[CobraAcesS]

You got me there but...am I really wrong here?

From the numbers I've seen it might be possible. Getting retention on Doumolin shouldn't be expensive. With Jones at 7M, I bet it it would be very close running a 21 or 22 man roster.

If they shed the fat they could activate Landeskog now with a 22 man roster. RIAL showed that a few weeks back.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

And there is no way, no how they can fit that under the cap.

They actually very easily could.

 

[AllAboutAvs]

I don't know if there was any truth to those Dobson rumours a few weeks back but I'd take him over any of these other D, including Jones.

Toews-Makar
Girard-Dobson

Get it done.

I disagree. IMO this current roster needs Jones more than Dobson.

 

[Pokecheque]

From the numbers I've seen it might be possible. Getting retention on Doumolin shouldn't be expensive. With Jones at 7M, I bet it it would be very close running a 21 or 22 man roster.

If they shed the fat they could activate Landeskog now with a 22 man roster. RIAL showed that a few weeks back.

I just don't see how they could put together six defensemen that expensive, spend the resources necessary to get retention on all of them, AND ice a deep-enough forward corps.

Don't get me wrong, getting a halfway-decent third pairing would be a dream. I just don't see it happening to this extent.

They actually very easily could.

Okay, maybe they could, but not easily, let alone "very" easily.

 

[CobraAcesS]

I just don't see how they could put together six defensemen that expensive, spend the resources necessary to get retention on all of them, AND ice a deep-enough forward corps.

Don't get me wrong, getting a halfway-decent third pairing would be a dream. I just don't see it happening to this extent.


Okay, maybe they could, but not easily, let alone "very" easily.

Jones would be expensive, but it wouldn't empty the clip.

1st + Ritchie + Sam2 and you still have the 2nd or whatever Carolina sent us plus whatever else.

If you keep Mitts and invest fully into the defense I don't see why we wouldn't have the assets to get Jones and a high level bottom pairing vet.

I'd hope they could find a way to keep Malinski, but that's just an example.

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Jason Bukala, Sportsnet writer and former Director of Scouting for Florida, was on Real Kyper and Bourne just a few minutes ago.

Avs related:

"When it comes to Seth Jones, it's all going to come down to how much Chicago are willing to retain. At the full hit, no team will touch that in-season and be interested. If the Hawks can retain $2m-$3m, there will be suitors. This is going to come down to Dallas and Colorado. Both teams really want him. For the Stars, they would need Chicago to retain a good chunk but would be willing to give up a couple of decent pieces. The Avs would need Chicago to retain a bit less and they really see Jones as a guy that could solve a ton of their problems on the backend. This is a team that knows the importance of being deep on the blueline after the guys they rolled out in the '22 Cup win."

Other tidbits:

- Rantanen is still shell-shocked from the trade and needs to snap out of it. He might turn down this $100m+ offer extension from Carolina simply because he can't accept the reality of what has happened. If the Hurricanes move him, Florida would be a front runner and very interested.

- Oilers really like Oleksiak, but have very little left in terms of assets to get a deal done. Jets also like Oleksiak.

- Jets also like Pageau and he'd help out their struggling PK.

- Leafs covet Parayko big time, but the Blues are going to ask for a king's random. Talking 2 1sts and a top prospect.

- Islanders want to find a way to keep Brock Nelson, not willing to listen to offers yet.

 

[hockeyfish]

Jason Bukala, Sportsnet writer and former Director of Scouting for Florida, was on Real Kyper and Bourne just a few minutes ago.

Avs related:

"When it comes to Seth Jones, it's all going to come down to much Chicago are willing to retain. At the full hit, no team will touch that in-season and be interested. If the Hawks can retain $2m-$3m, there will be suitors. This is going to come down to Dallas and Colorado. Both teams really want him. For the Stars, they would need Chicago to retain a good chunk but would be willing to give up a couple of decent pieces. The Avs would need Chicago to retain a bit less and they really see Jones as a guy that could solve a ton of their problems on the backend. This is a team that knows the importance of being deep on the blueline after the guys they rolled out in the '22 Cup win."

Other tidbits:

- Rantanen is still shell-shocked from the trade and needs to snap out of it. He might turn down this $100m+ offer extension from Carolina simply because he can't accept the reality of what has happened. If the Hurricanes move him, Florida would be a front runner and very interested.

- Oilers really like Oleksiak, but have very little left in terms of assets to get a deal done. Jets also like Oleksiak.

- Jets also like Pageau and he'd help out their struggling PK.

- Leafs covet Parayko big time, but the Blues are going to ask for a king's random. Talking 2 1sts and a top prospect.

- Islanders want to find a way to keep Brock Nelson, not willing to listen to offers yet.

 

[Ararana]

"When it comes to Seth Jones, it's all going to come down to much Chicago are willing to retain. At the full hit, no team will touch that in-season and be interested. If the Hawks can retain $2m-$3m, there will be suitors. This is going to come down to Dallas and Colorado. Both teams really want him. For the Stars, they would need Chicago to retain a good chunk but would be willing to give up a couple of decent pieces. The Avs would need Chicago to retain a bit less and they really see Jones as a guy that could solve a ton of their problems on the backend. This is a team that knows the importance of being deep on the blueline after the guys they rolled out in the '22 Cup win."

If this is true, that means the Avs are willing take on Jones at ~7-7.5 per year for the next five years. They must really like him, the "kid" is already 30...

But I can't lie

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones

Would be pretty f***ing nice for the next few years. If only they had a second line center....

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://post.futurimedia.com/chumam/playlist/listen-54491.html

 

[Balthazar]

If this is true, that means the Avs are willing take on Jones at ~7-7.5 per year for the next five years. They must really like him, the "kid" is already 30...

Manson will get traded next summer so the swap would cost around 3M.

 

[hockeyfish]

If this is true, that means the Avs are willing take on Jones at ~7-7.5 per year for the next five years. They must really like him, the "kid" is already 30...

But I can't lie

Toews - Makar
Girard - Jones

Would be pretty f***ing nice for the next few years. If only they had a second line center....

Jones at 7 next year would take some moves to make work, but it’s possible. And that is assuming Landy is able to return. If not, it’s pretty easy to fit. This year it’s possible to add Jones if someone goes on LTIR or they add Wood to a trade.

 

[Vaslof]

I'm both excited and scared about Jones. He is at least a much better pick-up than other names in the rumors. We can also move him because there won't be a NTC after a trade. So it's not the end of our team if he doesn't live upto his cap hit.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Jones at 7 next year would take some moves to make work, but it’s possible. And that is assuming Landy is able to return. If not, it’s pretty easy to fit. This year it’s possible to add Jones if someone goes on LTIR or they add Wood to a trade.

It really only requires moving Manson or Colton. That’s only IF landeskog comes back.

 

[myperbixhurts]

Some might say it’s Crosby AND bust.

Who says that???? I’ll fight them

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

Jason Bukala, Sportsnet writer and former Director of Scouting for Florida, was on Real Kyper and Bourne just a few minutes ago.

Avs related:

"When it comes to Seth Jones, it's all going to come down to how much Chicago are willing to retain. At the full hit, no team will touch that in-season and be interested. If the Hawks can retain $2m-$3m, there will be suitors. This is going to come down to Dallas and Colorado. Both teams really want him. For the Stars, they would need Chicago to retain a good chunk but would be willing to give up a couple of decent pieces. The Avs would need Chicago to retain a bit less and they really see Jones as a guy that could solve a ton of their problems on the backend. This is a team that knows the importance of being deep on the blueline after the guys they rolled out in the '22 Cup win."

Neither team has their 1st or 2nd round pick this year, but the Avs do have the Rangers and Carolina's 2nd they can use. So, I guess it comes down to...

Does Chicago covet the better prospects they can get from Dallas while retaining $3M+ for 5 years

Or

Retaining a million or two less than that to send him to Colorado, not getting the same quality of prospects, but getting high 2025 2nd?

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

 

[RoyIsALegend]

Who says that???? I’ll fight them

Wrong bust!

Crosby and… BUST!

[MOD]

 

[Avs_19]

I disagree. Dobson would be severely under-utilized here.
He’s not getting prime minutes nor top PP.

He would use up more assets and be a worse fit IMO.

And his next deal is going to cost a ton. Easy pass.

I disagree. IMO this current roster needs Jones more than Dobson.

All good. Reasonable people can disagree. I don't hold your wrong opinions against you.

 

[hockeyfish]

It really only requires moving Manson or Colton. That’s only IF landeskog comes back.

Yes, although at this point, they may need to pay to move them.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Yes, although at this point, they may need to pay to move them.

IMO, there is absolutely no chance we’d have to pay to move Manson. Right handed physical D are always coveted, regardless of quality. These types of dmen GMs love.
In fact, we’d likely get decent to good assets back.

 

[Avs_19]

Heiskanen is expected to be out for the season and I don't believe he's on LTIR yet so Dallas should easily be able to fit Jones in if they want him.

 

[hockeyfish]

J.T. Miller Reportedly Shut Down Blockbuster Deal Before Returning to New York

Don’t know what this is all about, found it while scrolling around.

 

[EdAVSfan]

Heiskanen is expected to be out for the season and I don't believe he's on LTIR yet so Dallas should easily be able to fit Jones in if they want him.

Dallas has no problems this year.

But apparently they have a tighter cap structure moving forward. Which is why in RIALs post, there was one analyst saying Dallas needs more retention than us.