Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

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Gonna get my hopes up yet again that we can get Seth Jones only for him to get traded to Dallas. They have a lot more ammunition to use then us. Rinse and repeat the pain cycle.
 
Gonna get my hopes up yet again that we can get Seth Jones only for him to get traded to Dallas. They have a lot more ammunition to use then us. Rinse and repeat the pain cycle.

They don't have the cap room going forward we do though (although temporary but the cap is rising fast), and his father lives in Denver.

I don't like Saravalli but he did make the point Dallas would have a hard time fitting him in after this year. Can't confirm because the Caps are dick holsters.

f*** off Dallas
 
Gonna get my hopes up yet again that we can get Seth Jones only for him to get traded to Dallas. They have a lot more ammunition to use then us. Rinse and repeat the pain cycle.
They have more of a need an tons of potential LTIR space for this year. So I wouldn't be surprised to see us outbid by Dallas.

They don't have the cap room going forward we do though (although temporary but the cap is rising fast), and his father lives in Denver.

I don't like Saravalli but he did make the point Dallas would have a hard time fitting him in after this year. Can't confirm because the Caps are dick holsters.

f*** off Dallas
I'm almost 100% sure Heisk won't be back during the regular season. That's their cap space there.
 
They don't have the cap room going forward we do though (although temporary but the cap is rising fast), and his father lives in Denver.

I don't like Saravalli but he did make the point Dallas would have a hard time fitting him in after this year. Can't confirm because the Caps are dick holsters.

f*** off Dallas
Not sure.
Dallas has 70M committed to next year. So they have tons of flexibility on where they want to go. They have several UFAs and RFAs also. Johnston and Bourque are the only only notable RFAs.
As UFAs, they have Benn, Granlund, Duchene and Dadonov as notables. They can easily walk away from most of these guys.
 
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The retention numbers he threw out are also interesting. If this is what Colorado and Dallas want retained I can see the hard line Chicago is taking, of ok we'll revisit this in the offseason. 2.5@7M would work for us. He's easily worth good assets for that.

I bet Provorov is asking for 6.5 to 7M.

Just get that shit done yesterday Cmac.


That contract has five years left after this one. So there’s no question in my mind if the Blackhawks are able to move Jones, it will require either retaining salary or taking back a bad contract. At $6 million or $6.5 million a year, I can see teams perking up. Retaining salary for that many years may seem somewhat onerous if you’re Chicago, but it would improve the actual return on the deal.
I'd take Jones at full cap hit if they just took Wood back.
 
They have more of a need an tons of potential LTIR space for this year. So I wouldn't be surprised to see us outbid by Dallas.


I'm almost 100% sure Heisk won't be back during the regular season. That's their cap space there.

Next year is the issue, apparently and may be why 6 to 6.5 is the retention numbers being thrown out.

Not sure.
Dallas has 70M committed to next year. So they have tons of flexibility on where they want to go. They have several UFAs and RFAs also. Johnston and Bourque are the only only notable RFAs.
As UFAs, they have Benn, Granlund, Duchene and Dadonov as notables. They can easily walk away from most of these guys.

So Savioli is stupid as usual. That's what I get lol.
 
I believe it was Byram. It's well documented that Avs management knew they were eventually going to lose him as he wanted a shot to try to be a #1D somewhere.

I don't blame management for taking a swing on Byram/Mitts. Mitts had the potential to be a top six center. But they swung and missed big time and the blame falls on them for that. You don't trade a kid like Byram and wiff on the trade without taking a rash of shit.

They would have been better served trying to package Byram and getting a center with more proven experience.
So you don't blame them but then you do......OK then....
 
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Just do something soon CMac. We need another middle 6 C (possibly a 2C depending what we do with Mittelstadt). Possibly a 3C if we want Drury on the 4th and Kelly can shift to wing. A #3/4 D, and a bottom pairing guy. Like we need AT LEAST 3 of these things to be serious. I’m excited at the cap going up and the free agent possibilities for next year but we just can’t keep wasting years of 8 and 29.
 
So Savioli is stupid as usual. That's what I get lol.
Not necessarily. Nill has said that re-signing Benn is a priority. He and Duchene will cost upwards of $12-$13M combined. Johnston is going to go from $895k to $7-$8M. Bourque and Lundqvist will cost upwards of $2M each, and their buyout of Suter jumps to $1.433M next year. All that right there gets them very close to the cap.

However, it's the following year (2026) when Robertson, Marchment, and Harley will be due for significant raises where Jones's deal becomes problematic for them.

Now they can probably cut some dead weight (like Dumbo and Lyubushkin), not resign Duchene, and probably make it work, but Frank isn't technically wrong that it would be hard for Dallas to fit him in for the next 5 years.
 
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Gonna get my hopes up yet again that we can get Seth Jones only for him to get traded to Dallas. They have a lot more ammunition to use then us. Rinse and repeat the pain cycle.
Unfortunate reality of being an Avs fan.

Don’t worry though, David Savard will look perfectly mediocre in an Avs uniform
 
Watched Chicago/Utah last night. Wow, is Chicago a full on dumpter fire. Shot attempts were 93-39. Kind of hard to evaluate Jones with that, but he did have a few shot blocks and scored the lone goal. But at the same time, looked pretty checked out of the game. I do think getting him out of that situation will help, but at the same time, he is part of that problem.

Crouse had a great game. He took a hard shot off the ankle midway through the game and was shown limping into the dressing room. But he still managed to score a nice backhanded goal driving the net. The dude is a warrior and a leader. I think a lot of his lack of production this year is being pushed down the lineup. That will still be the case in Colorado, but I think he would really help solidify our 3rd line.

I've mentioned Marino a few times before. He isn't a great skater, but he gets around well enough. He's really solid all around the ice and does well getting the puck out of the zone. I don't think he would be available, but if so, he would be an ideal target.

Hayton was fun to watch. Good motor and a good 1st step. He plays the goal front position on the power play and didn't seem to mind taking abuse there. It shows as he has 62 shots from the high danger zone this year (compared to Mitts 76 from all areas). He shot wasn't all that impressive, but half of scoring is getting yourself in a position to score. He's only 24 and I think there is more to his game to unlock. Like Marino, I doubt he is available, but if so, I'd be pushing hard to get him
 
Watched Chicago/Utah last night. Wow, is Chicago a full on dumpter fire. Shot attempts were 93-39. Kind of hard to evaluate Jones with that, but he did have a few shot blocks and scored the lone goal. But at the same time, looked pretty checked out of the game. I do think getting him out of that situation will help, but at the same time, he is part of that problem.

Crouse had a great game. He took a hard shot off the ankle midway through the game and was shown limping into the dressing room. But he still managed to score a nice backhanded goal driving the net. The dude is a warrior and a leader. I think a lot of his lack of production this year is being pushed down the lineup. That will still be the case in Colorado, but I think he would really help solidify our 3rd line.

I've mentioned Marino a few times before. He isn't a great skater, but he gets around well enough. He's really solid all around the ice and does well getting the puck out of the zone. I don't think he would be available, but if so, he would be an ideal target.

Hayton was fun to watch. Good motor and a good 1st step. He plays the goal front position on the power play and didn't seem to mind taking abuse there. It shows as he has 62 shots from the high danger zone this year (compared to Mitts 76 from all areas). He shot wasn't all that impressive, but half of scoring is getting yourself in a position to score. He's only 24 and I think there is more to his game to unlock. Like Marino, I doubt he is available, but if so, I'd be pushing hard to get him
What's a one stop shop look like?
 


This, plus the comments in there from Utah's GM... It's not a ringing endorsement for many moves being made this year.

And if you needed an idea where Jones wants to go...
Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, who the f*** wants to live in Texas?

Nice song mate. I could drive on the highway and listen to his stuff forever.
Yeah, the trance songs I listen to are normally for driving.
 
What are your lots thoughts concerning BigBaller Q available for that 2nd line centre role? I understand he probably doesn't make it as a centre, but his strengths are definitely more pro-Avs style than Mittelstadt. Definitely more worth the risk than Zegras or somebody else in the same category.
 
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What are your lots thoughts concerning BigBaller Q available for that 2nd line centre role? I understand he probably doesn't make it as a centre, but his strengths are definitely more pro-Avs style than Mittelstadt. Definitely more worth the risk than Zegras or somebody else.
Can you translate that into boomer please.
 
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