Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency Talk | Part Deux

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I agree 100%. Manson needs to be the 5th most used dman in the postseason, just like he was 3 years ago when they won the cup. Not drastically 5th, but there needs to be 4 guys that you want to use more.
More importantly, you can't have two guys who routinely only get 10 minutes. A 10 minute 3rd pairing means the other two pairs play 25 minutes.
 
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Do you recall if the Mitts Nelson discussion was before or after the Rantanen trade?

For the life of me, I can’t understand acquiring Nelson to replace Mitts. This is why I ask if the discussion was before the Rantanen trade because they then added Drury as a 2C.
I could understand Nelson if it was simply to add him to Colorado, but definitely not in exchange for Mittlestadt.

It was the night of, I caught part of it, Cobra caught all of it (not that there was a ton to catch).

I think Nelson is the better player in a vacuum, but I don't personally think the team should go there. Nelson's only a few months younger than O'Reilly, his production has dipped, and he's a pending UFA. Trading for and extending a guy who'll be 34 at the start of next season doesn't seem like an Avalanche-type move.
 
That's why Mitts doesn't work


Misleading tweet, though. That user clearly values individual skaters over the way teams play. IMO there are plenty of teams now playing faster than the Avs do.
What would it take to acquire Cozens?
Cozens is a donkey. Poor man's Matt Duchene who tries to dangle every player in sight like it's still the WHL. I wouldn't give up anything of value for him.
 
I agree 100%. Manson needs to be the 5th most used dman in the postseason, just like he was 3 years ago when they won the cup. Not drastically 5th, but there needs to be 4 guys that you want to use more.
Yes even if you think Manson is adequate (which he arguably is) in spurts due to an injury. He needs to be pushed down to #5 when the inevitable injuries occur over a playoff run.


The Avs are one bad hit from having Manson as a #3 and either Malinski/CdH on the second pair.

Not to mention the fact that Manson has only a year on his contract so a solution needs to be found this year before the cap skyrockets.

The Petterson Vancouver got may reset the market on desirable but not that great second pair dmen at 7 millions. It would be wise to get a guy signed for a few years.

Manson seems like he's well liked and a warrior on the ice. He'd do well in a 2.5m bottom pairing role. Like a Miles Wood who's actually worth his pay.
 
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Misleading tweet, though. That user clearly values individual skaters over the way teams play. IMO there are plenty of teams now playing faster than the Avs do.

Cozens is a donkey. Poor man's Matt Duchene who tries to dangle every player in sight like it's still the WHL. I wouldn't give up anything of value for him.
I agree. Mittelstadt was the center to target from Buffalo. Alas his skating/endurance/stamina doesn't seem to be working.
 
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what's everyones thoughts on Tommy Novak?

i remember last year he emerged as a legit top 6 for Nashville and I think maybe he could thrive in this system and is only signed for 3.5 mil.

i havent seen him extensively so I dont know how good his skating is but surely it can't be worse than mits.
 
Cozens is a donkey. Poor man's Matt Duchene who tries to dangle every player in sight like it's still the WHL. I wouldn't give up anything of value for him.
Come on now...tell the truth: you keep hating on him because you picked him in your fantasy team last year and he didn't produce as much as you thought.
 
Yes even if you think Manson is adequate (which he arguably is) in spurts due to an injury. He needs to be pushed down to #5 when the inevitable injuries occur over a playoff run.


The Avs are one bad hit from having Manson as a #3 and either Malinski/CdH on the second pair.

Not to mention the fact that Manson has only a year on his contract so a solution needs to be found this year before the cap skyrockets.

The Petterson Vancouver got may reset the market on desirable but not that great second pair dmen at 7 millions. It would be wise to get a guy signed for a few years.


Manson seems like he's well liked and a warrior on the ice. He'd do well in a 2.5m bottom pairing role. Like a Miles Wood who's actually worth his pay.

This is why Jones is a good solution. Other more average Dmen are soon going to be commanding crazy caphits, but at least with him you have cap certainty at the position for 5 years without an inflating cap having an impact.

It's also why it makes sense to target players with some term left right now in general, not just Dmen, rather than pending UFA's. But those guys might also be pricier to acquire unless teams really want to move them.
 

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