Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency - Offseason Edition

[The Abusement Park]

Duhaime showed some flashes in the regular season but he's a dime a dozen player.

I don't think he's worth it for the Avs since he's strictly a winger. At least Wagner can play centre.

I would be good either way with him. If he comes back cheap than cool, I think he showed some potential to work in Bednars system and I think he could do quite well here.

 

[hockeyfish]

Right, if we pencil in Kovalenko, Foudy, Malinksi and Innala on ELC's and also Wagner into the main roster we would have 18 players signed and $1.02m in cap space.

Your calculations are off. Avs should be able to ice a full 22 man roster with the players currently under contract with 445k in cap space to spare. That would cover a Nuke replacement for the 1st month of the season. It's not a great roster, but it's a full roster.

 

[Richard88]

There was a report a week-or-so ago that teams view Duhaime as a consolation prize if they miss out on Dakota Joshua. So it is likely he'll get overpaid for his physicality.

Personally, Duhaime impressed me when he first got here, but that faded over time. I don't think Bednar trusted him and I don't blame him. For as little as he played, the Avs gave up way too many goals 5v5 when Duhaime was on the ice, which is why I think his ice time got slashed in the playoffs.

<Regular Season>

	GP	TOI 5v5	Oi GA 5v5
Duhaime	18	10:17	9
Trenin	16	10:32	2
Wagner	13	7:01	1

<Playoffs>

	GP	TOI 5v5	Oi GA 5v5
Duhaime	11	7:31	4
Trenin	10	8:51	3
Wagner	2	8:44	0

(I'm not insinuating Wagner is better, it's just for comparison sake)

Duhaime probably gets a little north of $1m, like $1.2m, which would be $425k over the salary minimum of $775k.

That may not sound like much, but $425k would accrue enough cap space to add a legit good player at the deadline. So unless Duhaime is willing to sign for closer to $800k the Avs are probably better off passing on him and instead filling the role for ~$775-800k and then adding at the deadline instead when they could get a much better player than Duhaime for that cap space.

 

[The Moops]

Duhaime probably gets a little north of $1m, like $1.2m, which would be $425k over the salary minimum of $775k.

That may not sound like much, but $425k would accrue enough cap space to add a legit good player at the deadline. So unless Duhaime is willing to sign for closer to $800k the Avs are probably better off passing on him and instead filling the role for ~$775-800k and then adding at the deadline instead when they could get a much better player than Duhaime for that cap space.

Hey Joe, what are the odds of you signing Drouin and Skinner?

 

[Richard88]

Hey Joe, what are the odds of you signing Drouin and Skinner?

Drouin will get done. Skinner is staying east

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806109699802386537

 

[Bill Peckerskull]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806109699802386537

Some really interesting/intriguing names on that list

 

[UnkleKraker]

Mother? Sounds like that hot older woman was her boss.

Dont do cocaine from hookers.....Dont go full Nichuskhin....

 

[Ararana]

Some really interesting/intriguing names on that list

And the Avs can afford none of them.

 

[Richard88]

Are there any decent targets to be had if we did Colton+ for a replacement 3C at 50% retained?

Something like Colton + pick(s) for Jenner @50% ($1.875m X2 years)

Or Colton+ for Frost @50% (1.05m X 1 year).

Other ideas?

 

[Balthazar]

Are there any decent targets to be had if we did Colton+ for a replacement 3C at 50% retained?

Something like Colton + pick(s) for Jenner @50% ($1.875m X2 years)

Or Colton+ for Frost @50% (1.05m X 1 year).

Other ideas?

If we're trading Colton it's for the full 4M of cap space, not for a replacement.

 

[LOFIN]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1806109699802386537

Staple also reported that the Rangers have already asked for his 15 team NTC. He still has NMC until July 1st.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Are there any decent targets to be had if we did Colton+ for a replacement 3C at 50% retained?

Something like Colton + pick(s) for Jenner @50% ($1.875m X2 years)

Or Colton+ for Frost @50% (1.05m X 1 year).

Other ideas?

It would likely cost an arm and a leg for Jenner @50% but it would certainly be worth it.


Mack - Mitts - Jenner down the middle for 2 runs would be phenomenal.

 

[chet1926]

I know I'm like the last person to realize this, but factoring in Nichushkin and Landy on the books, we have $5.23m in cap space with only 13 players signed.

This is going to be a wild off-season.

Yep, I actually don't think you are the last to realize this. Many posters seem to think it's all good and keep posting their NHL 25 rosters.

We are in a crunch and it's going to be nuts.

 

[Richard88]

If we're trading Colton it's for the full 4M of cap space, not for a replacement.

Well you're gonna need to find a replacement 3C one way or another if you move Colton. Either you trade him and use assets (or UFA) to acquire a replacement, or you trade him for his direct replacement thereby killing two birds with one stone as it were.

 

[UncleRisto]

If we're trading Colton it's for the full 4M of cap space, not for a replacement.

Alas, we need a replacement.

 

[henchman21]

1st line - 28 minutes
2nd line - 22 minutes
4th line - 8 minutes
AHL line - 2 minutes

Problem solved.

 

[RockLobster]

Alas, we need a replacement.

Which to get one that isn't worse than Colton (who I don't think is all that bad, but is, as others have pointed out, average) it would cost either the same 4M AAV, or possibly more.

That's just the rate for average 3rd liners at this point.

 

[Chileiceman]

Your calculations are off. Avs should be able to ice a full 22 man roster with the players currently under contract with 445k in cap space to spare. That would cover a Nuke replacement for the 1st month of the season. It's not a great roster, but it's a full roster.

Yes, my bad. We would have $1.02m in cap space with 20 signed players, not 18 (or 22). I am also not factoring whatever small amount of relief we will get for not having Nuke count against the cap for the first month of the season.

In any event, it'd be nice to move a contract out (likely one of Colton, Manson or Girard) to use the cap space for multiple cheaper players.

 

[Avs44]

1st line - 28 minutes
2nd line - 22 minutes
4th line - 8 minutes
AHL line - 2 minutes

Problem solved.

I see you attended Jared Bednar’s coaching academy.

 

[Chiarelli]

Trouba to Utah?

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I know I'm like the last person to realize this, but factoring in Nichushkin and Landy on the books, we have $5.23m in cap space with only 13 players signed.

This is going to be a wild off-season.

Yep, I actually don't think you are the last to realize this. Many posters seem to think it's all good and keep posting their NHL 25 rosters.

We are in a crunch and it's going to be nuts.

16 Players. Not 13. I would even argue 17 players as Wagner is the perfect 13th forward on his league minimum deal for us.

Lehky - Mack - Mikko
Landy - Mitts - Nuke
Wood - Colton - LOC
Kovalenko - ???? - ????
Wagner

Toews - Makar
Girard - Manson
???? - ????

George
Annunen

With Wagner as 13F, they've got roughly $5M to spend once you factor Nuke in at a cap hit of $5M this year.

Its tight but certainly not nearly as dire as you both are suggesting with the 13 players claim. $5M and 4 or 5 roster spots to fill.

 

[LOFIN]

Trouba to Utah?

I would have to think he has it somewhere closer, at least for now. I thought I read his wife is tied into New York for her job at least until 2025. Her career is the reason he left Winnipeg in the first place.

Though with a 15 team NTC, you don't hold all that many cards...

 

[MacKaRant]

About 5 or so, but that was after I had sake at a Japanese restaurant prior to that and few more cocktails at the beach earlier.

All inclusive vacation all you can eat and drink LOL… it’s none stop

Was the blonde part of the all inclusive nature of the vacation? Maybe there's an argument there that in order to maximize the value of the all inclusive trip, you need to take advantage of everything on offer?

 

[The Abusement Park]

If we're trading Colton it's for the full 4M of cap space, not for a replacement.

Colton has to be replaced though….?