Rumor: 2024-2025 Trade Rumors and Free Agency - Offseason Edition

[henchman21]

Remember that PLD can be bought out at 1/3rd of his contract. I didn't do the math but if Washington was thinking about buying out Kuemper then perhaps buying out PLD is cheaper.

It’s probably trying kuemper for a year and if it doesn’t work, buy him out next summer

 

[LOFIN]

Remember that PLD can be bought out at 1/3rd of his contract.

Only if Florida gets it done on Friday. PLD turns 26 on Monday, and the buyout window starts 48 hours after the SC is awarded. So if Florida wins G6, Washington has like an hour to do the buyout at 1/3 lol. And if it goes 7, then the buyout is at 2/3

 

[expatriatedtexan]

Kuemper has been bad the last two years… I mean LA getting out of that contract is huge. But they’re still stuck with a shitty goalie.

But...PLD was an absolute aircraft carrier anchor. I don't think of this as a trade for a goalie. They basically bought out the remaining 59.5M on PLDs contract for the 15,750,000 remaining on Keumpers. Yes, Darcy sucks but that wasn't the point.

The point is Rob Blake traded for and signed PLD. That should have cost him his job.

 

[jaisen73]

Honestly, if the Avs were willing to get nothing more than a draft pick back they could probably deal Val to San Jose or the Blue Jackets IF they were willing to sacrifice a high pick for it:

To San Jose: Val and 2025 1st Round Pick (Top 15 protected; 2026 otherwise)
To Colorado: 2024 3nd Round Pick (or something like that)

Pure salary dump/get rid of the problem. For the Sharks its "We got a 1st round pick and potentially a Top 6 forward, we'll be patient with Val, etc."

Its a lousy deal for the Avs for sure but it lets them sign the players they want this summer and wiggle room going forward.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

Woah, I take lunch break and crazy things start happening.


Pretty hilarious trade. Come on CMac, find a way to get rid of Nuke today. It's kind of funny because I had thought a little about a Kuemper/Nuke swap honestly.

 

[AslanRH]

All it takes is NYR to trade back from #30 to one of SJS 2nds for future considerations or some junk prospect and Grier is fine.
Backroom considerations are granted more often than we think IMO

 

[Chiarelli]

I could actually see Kuemper doing well in LA.
PLD just seems like he'll be a problem anywhere he goes look at the quotes when he was joining LA:

"I saw an opportunity with the LA Kings that to me was like a dream come true," Dubois said. "With this organization, to be able to play with this team, to get to work and play with some players that I looked up to when I was a kid, I think it's going to be a really fun experience."

Dubois felt he was leaving problem teams that had hampered his career.
That's a terrible contract for Washington to take on one of the worst in the league imo.
Not sure what they're thinking.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

All it takes is NYR to trade back from #30 to one of SJS 2nds for future considerations or some junk prospect and Grier is fine.
Backroom considerations are granted more often than we think IMO

This literally never happens and would actually cause a significant uproar if they tried it.

 

[Pokecheque]

bring Trouba in after he is bought out

Trouba combined with the Avs PK and goaltending would be akin to getting Justin Timberlake as your next Uber driver.

I could actually see Kuemper doing well in LA.
PLD just seems like he'll be a problem anywhere he goes look at the quotes when he was joining LA:

"I saw an opportunity with the LA Kings that to me was like a dream come true," Dubois said. "With this organization, to be able to play with this team, to get to work and play with some players that I looked up to when I was a kid, I think it's going to be a really fun experience."

Dubois felt he was leaving problem teams that had hampered his career.
That's a terrible contract for Washington to take on one of the worst in the league imo.
Not sure what they're thinking.

They’re desperate to upgrade their team by any means necessary over the next year-plus so Ovechkin gets that record. After he gets it they won’t care but that’s their goal for now. Once he breaks it and moves on or retires they’ll blow it up and start over, but not until then.

 

[LOFIN]

Top picks from the 2016 draft:

#1. Auston Matthews, the best goalscorer of his generation
#2. Patrik Laine, about to move to his 3rd NHL team
#3. Pierre-Luc Dubois: on his 4th NHL team
#4. Jesse Puljujärvi: on his 3rd NHL team, went to Europe for some time as well
#5. Olli Juolevi: playing in Liiga

Even if you get a top pick, no guarantee on it hitting

 

[AslanRH]

This literally never happens and would actually cause a significant uproar if they tried it.

ok. you know best
#40+#51 got #27
going from #30 to #33 or #40 for some former 3rd rounder isn't going to light the league on fire.

 

[Toothless Legend]

Too bad SJ retained on Hertl. I’d imagine they could flip Goodrow for at least a second, if not a first, immediately (certainly at the deadline) at 50% retained. Oh well, I guess they’ll do that a year and a half from now.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

ok. you know best
#40+#51 got #27
going from #30 to #33 or #40 for some former 3rd rounder isn't going to light the league on fire.

That isn't what you said at all....

There's a gigantic difference between trading down and getting an additional pick/prospect, versus trading down literally for future considerations.

If NYR and SJS tried to complete a trade tomorrow of pick #30 for pick #40 + Future considerations, it would 100% be rejected by the league and an investigation would then be initiated by the NHLPA on what went on with Goodrow.


Now, could we see a #30 for #40 + #85 or something? Sure... But then that also simply doesn't change anything about the fact they took Goodrow for free when they easily should have gotten a 2nd or 3rd to get him.

 

[LOFIN]

 

[the_fan]

So Mikko trade should be announced soon with all the moves starting to happen. It’s gonna be Mikko for bunch of draft picks. Waiting for that one

 

[HockeyFan100]

Washington will pay $15,000,000 combined for Wilson and PLD until 2031... yikes

 

[henchman21]

Washington will pay $15,000,000 combined for Wilson and PLD until 2031... yikes

The only thing that matters to them is Ovi getting the record

 

[AslanRH]

That isn't what you said at all....

There's a gigantic difference between trading down and getting an additional pick/prospect, versus trading down literally for future considerations.

If NYR and SJS tried to complete a trade tomorrow of pick #30 for pick #40 + Future considerations, it would 100% be rejected by the league and an investigation would then be initiated by the NHLPA on what went on with Goodrow.

I said it also could be a prospect. And at the draft isn't tomorrow. 30 to 33 isn't exactly a leap that would be rejected IMO
but we can disagree and I'll take the loss to your more knowledgeable insight

 

[HockeyFan100]

The only thing that matters to them is Ovi getting the record

and taking away CapFriendly from us. f***ing Washington

 

[LOFIN]

I said it also could be a prospect. And at the draft isn't tomorrow. 30 to 33 isn't exactly a leap that would be rejected IMO
but we can disagree and I'll take the loss to your more knowledgeable insight

You are allowed to make stupid trades, it's not about that. It's about the NHLPA looking at it and seeing how SJ and NYR clearly circumvented the NTC that Goodrow had negotiated on his deal. It would cause a big uproar.

 

[Pierce Hawthorne]

I said it also could be a prospect. And at the draft isn't tomorrow. 30 to 33 isn't exactly a leap that would be rejected IMO
but we can disagree and I'll take the loss to your more knowledgeable insight

It is still a clear flat-out loss and then blatant NTC circumvention. There's no way it would be approved 1 for 1.

I wonder... Norris for Couturier would be an interesting swap.


Chychrun also feels like a Flyers type of player to me.

 

[AslanRH]

You are allowed to make stupid trades, it's not about that. It's about the NHLPA looking at it and seeing how SJ and NYR clearly circumvented the NTC that Goodrow had negotiated on his deal. It would cause a big uproar.

ok, I'll defer to you both.
to me it really isn't much different than threatening a player with waivers to get him to move (McDonagh to Nashville for a bit). Just that McDonagh played ball. I'm sure the return trade didn't factor in any previous considerations there either

 

[Balthazar]

Briere is rebuilding and Ottawa is trying to get over the hump.

I'm pretty sure the Flyers are aiming for the Sens' 7th OA pick, I've no clue what would be going the other way though.

 

[BobRossColton]

Okay new plan, trade our first for two seconds and add the better one of the seconds to Nuke?

Feasible at all?

 

[Chiarelli]

Washington will pay $15,000,000 combined for Wilson and PLD until 2031... yikes

what's wrong with Tom Wilson?