Line Combos: 2024-2025 Powerplay Discussion

morhilane

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They did pretty much none of that.. also your first set up should be your optimal set up and then move chess pieces after that.
Maybe MSL think that if they start in the wrong spots, they will move more. :help:

They are too static afterall and every time they had a "chat" about it, they reverted back after 2 weeks.
 

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Slafkovsky shouldn't be in the bumper spot. Laine should probably be there. It needs to be a shooter. Slaf is more passer. He should be where he was last year allowing him to go low & drive the goal line/net or make the cross-ice pass.

I'm going to hate the PP again, aren't I?
 

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Slafkovsky shouldn't be in the bumper spot. Laine should probably be there. It needs to be a shooter. Slaf is more passer. He should be where he was last year allowing him to go low & drive the goal line/net or make the cross-ice pass.

I'm going to hate the PP again, aren't I?

Yep..

Slaf is the left shot one timer and in the bumper, his stick is too long to get a quick release off in a collapsing PK box which is why Newhook is the better bumper option on PP1.
 

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I've always been a big MSL supporter but I can't defend this PP shit. It's stupid and it pisses me off.

What I wouldn't give for a competent f***ing PP where we utilize the correct players in the correct way. Is that too much to ask for? Why is this constantly a thing? I'm sick of it.
 

Kudo Shinichi

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I've always been a big MSL supporter but I can't defend this PP shit. It's stupid and it pisses me off.

What I wouldn't give for a competent f***ing PP where we utilize the correct players in the correct way. Is that too much to ask for? Why is this constantly a thing? I'm sick of it.

How about we wait until the actual game starts?

Ridiculous to complain when we have yet to see the pp for a game during the reg season. They also used different pp formation last season. Even on the same pp, players moved around and switched positions. So just because they practiced with this formation, it doesn't mean it will be the only formation they use.
 

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Literally here we see Caufield on his usual left and Suzuki on his usual right.

So much overeaction for no reason. They are trying out different formations during camp, whats wrong with that?

I don't think the issue is the formation. It's the fact that those passes are slower than my grandma trying to send an e-transfer. No way the bumper gets to switch to his forehand to pass to the other side in a real game. Suzuki's streaking in from the blue line is useless most of the time, unless he takes the shot.


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Too much focus on being "unpredictable". The habs should be predictable, but they should punish the opponent when they allow them a certain space.

You have to make the top of the diamond move low to high and vice versa. You just gotta make them budge.

Unpredictability comes during the finish, not during the set up of the lateral pass. Move the puck quickly and keep it simple.
 
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Ozmodiar

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I don't think the issue is the formation. It's the fact that those passes are slower than my grandma trying to send an e-transfer. No way the bumper gets to switch to his forehand to pass to the other side in a real game. Suzuki's streaking in from the blue line is useless most of the time, unless he takes the shot.


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Too much focus on being "unpredictable". The habs should be predictable, but they should punish the opponent when they allow them a certain space.

You have to make the top of the diamond move low to high and vice versa. You just gotta make them budge.

Unpredictability comes during the finish, not during the set up of the lateral pass. Move the puck quickly and keep it simple.
It was in Slaf’s feet there. Slowed things down a bit.
 

Rob Sense

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Laine needs to be on PP1...anything else is hockey malpractice. Play him high on left side and play Caufield low. Then Suzuki, Matheson or Hutson, Slav or Dach. I would use Slaf and put Dach on PP2 with Roy, Newhook and the other D-man. as for 5th guy draw straws.
 

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Slafkovsky shouldn't be in the bumper spot. Laine should probably be there. It needs to be a shooter. Slaf is more passer. He should be where he was last year allowing him to go low & drive the goal line/net or make the cross-ice pass.

I'm going to hate the PP again, aren't I?
I don't get why they haven't seen the presence Slaf has on the wall and then sliding down when we rotate up top.
I was pissed off last season when they took him off the wall for the initial faceoffs. Our winger wins died an immediate death.
I get the idea of having that big body in the middle but how does that help you when you have to chase back 200 ft for the puck.

Who are the morons who don't pick up on little details like that? Stuff like zone entries on Slaf 's side worked zone entries on Caufield's side didn't.
I mean these are all details we bring up in the GDT I know we are only wearing Fan Hats but we aren't blind.
 

Ozmodiar

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2 notable PP setups from last season:
- Suzuki on strong side, moving downhill to shoot or pass to Caufield.
- Suzuki on left cycling w CC. Either give-and-go or pass from low to Newhook in bumper.

This new setup melds the 2 together, with Dach and Slaf inserted into the 2nd option. They can quickly move from one to the other.

Not my preferred setup but lots of possibilities. Looking forward to seeing it.
 
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Ah yes the proven Gallagher on PP2 strat.

At least Laine and Lane replace Anderson and Harris.
Not one Gallagher mention besides your post. Thank you.

To trot him out there, even if it’s PP2, is a fireable offense. Might as well put Evans out there, just as stupid a decision. Gally, in his 30 goals scoring prime, couldn’t play on a PP. This is just catering to vets out of respect, let’s be real.
 

morhilane

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Not one Gallagher mention besides your post. Thank you.

To trot him out there, even if it’s PP2, is a fireable offense. Might as well put Evans out there, just as stupid a decision. Gally, in his 30 goals scoring prime, couldn’t play on a PP. This is just catering to vets out of respect, let’s be real.
Better a Gally getting broken playing the net screen than someone more useful thought. I actually don't mind there. I have issue when he's used eslewhere on the PP.
 

Naslundforever

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I don't think the issue is the formation. It's the fact that those passes are slower than my grandma trying to send an e-transfer. No way the bumper gets to switch to his forehand to pass to the other side in a real game. Suzuki's streaking in from the blue line is useless most of the time, unless he takes the shot.


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Too much focus on being "unpredictable". The habs should be predictable, but they should punish the opponent when they allow them a certain space.

You have to make the top of the diamond move low to high and vice versa. You just gotta make them budge.

Unpredictability comes during the finish, not during the set up of the lateral pass. Move the puck quickly and keep it simple.
I liked Laine’s comment at a presser yesterday « I was part of a pp running at 35% in Winnipeg where we were static » (or something close)… mentionned Edmonton moves around and are also good.

Were so starved for talent in mtl we elevate 20-30g scorers to elite status and are left wondering how that’s good for 28th spot on the pp.
 
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