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Injury Report: 2024-2025 Injury Updates

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Tabarouette said:
I know!

it's just PTSD, it'll pass someday

but i'm telling you this future core of Scherbak, Andrighetto, Carr, Hudon and De La Rose will cause a lot of headaches to other teams
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I think for me the big difference this time around is looking at a guy like Farrell who I think is fairly similar to the Scherbak/Andrighetto/Hudon tier. A couple of years ago there was some hype around him after his big sophomore year and he was getting pencilled into all the "2 years from now" lineups, there were discussions about if we could make room for him with other small forwards like Caufield and Gallagher because he was seen as having an inside shot at becoming a middle sixer for us.

Now he's off to a slow start in his 2nd pro year after a just OK first AHL season and has become a bit of an afterthought but nobody cares or even talks about him because it just doesn't really matter. He could still turn things around and figure out how to be a middle six scoring depth option in the future, but at this point he's behind Roy, Heineman, Kapanen, Beck, and maybe Mesar (and Newhook who's only 10 months older but is an actual NHL player) so it's not worth worrying about it. Tuch isn't an apples to apples comparison but he's probably ahead of Farrell too, and of course Demidov/Hage (and Slafkovsky) are in completely different categories.

8-10 years ago a player like Farrell flatlining to start his 2nd AHL year would have been crippling but today it just doesn't really matter because we don't desperately need a guy like him to be an upgrade on Newhook or we're totally screwed like we desperately needed Hudon/Andrighetto to be a huge upgrade on like Rene Bourque or whoever else we had back in those days.
 
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Canadienna said:
Maybe the reason their conditioning sucks is they keep skipping practices for therapy days.

It's a big circle.
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Mystery solved

In all honesty, i think the lack of structure and system is big part of these injuries

Defenseman and forwards are exhausting themselves defending, then taking big hits just trying to clear a puck, add in the blocked shots.

It has to take its toll
 
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6 game in 6 guys on IR 25% of the team + Price

Guhle
Slaf
Laine
RHP
Barron
Reinbacher

+ these 4 needed days off/missed games

Struble
Matheson
Armia
Dvorak

Total 20 guys that's half the team🤕

Are the Habs leading the league in missed games again?
 
Team_Spirit said:
6 game in 6 guys on IR 25% of the team + Price

Guhle
Slaf
Laine
RHP
Barron
Reinbacher

+ these 4 needed days off/missed games

Struble
Matheson
Armia
Dvorak

Total 20 guys that's half the team🤕

Are the Habs leading the league in missed games again?
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Only Price is on IR. RHP and Laine are on LTIR. Reinbacher is on SOIR which means his cap isn't counted on the Habs.

Slaf/Guhle and Barron won't be put on IR. It's all short term (IR requires 7 days of inactivities).
 
Apoplectic Habs Fan said:
Mystery solved

In all honesty, i think the lack of structure and system is big part of these injuries

Defenseman and forwards are exhausting themselves defending, then taking big hits just trying to clear a puck, add in the blocked shots.

It has to take its toll
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We all knew it was a matter of time before the drop pass wrecked someone on this team. Drop the puck back.. ok.. but then 4 guys stand in front of you watching you hit a wall of opposing players? That's the play?
 
Apoplectic Habs Fan said:
In all honesty, i think the lack of structure and system is big part of these injuries

Defenseman and forwards are exhausting themselves defending, then taking big hits just trying to clear a puck, add in the blocked shots.

It has to take its toll
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Maybe, but I personally don't see a lot of evidence of that.

Barron got hurt because he fumbled an easy Ozone pass and tried to recover while Trouba was intent on punishing him.

Laine got hurt while trying to carry the puck over the blue line.

Guhle got hurt after dumping the puck in the Ozone, and once again, didn't brace himself for an incoming check.

Reinbacher should have easily been able to take that check without a season ending injury.

Slaf/Math I don't think we know totally what happened.
 
Canadienna said:
Maybe, but I personally don't see a lot of evidence of that.

Barron got hurt because he fumbled an easy Ozone pass and tried to recover while Trouba was intent on punishing him.

Laine got hurt while trying to carry the puck over the blue line.

Guhle got hurt after dumping the puck in the Ozone, and once again, didn't brace himself for an incoming check.

Reinbacher should have easily been able to take that check without a season ending injury.

Slaf/Math I don't think we know totally what happened.
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Not just talking this yr though, we are yrs into the injury problems
 
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red devil said:
https://x.com/i/web/status/1849825985807499574
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I didn't like the way Guhle was shaking his head in the face off circle his next shift after the hit.
I thought it was quiet room worthy at the very least.
He looked concussed in my books and he also played like he was concussed.
We all know recurring issues take much longer to come back from.
He missed what 12 games after the Kucherov hit...
 
The Last Red said:
Good thing we changed out the athletic trainers before last season. It’s made a huge difference, hasn’t it?
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There has been an improvement on the projections of when a player is expected to be back/diagnosis and also on taking precaution. The modus is on the players to let the trainers know of any issues though.
 
I am seriously questioning the strength and conditioning program of this org.

It makes no sense that our guys can’t take any physicality (not talking about Barron as that was a hockey play)

I haven’t seen any team so injury prone as ours - they must be doing something different.

There was a reason why the Rangers moved on from their athletic director - why did we hire him?

I mean how can a giant like Slaf keep getting injured?

There’s something not being done right
 
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Rapala said:
I didn't like the way Guhle was shaking his head in the face off circle his next shift after the hit.
I thought it was quiet room worthy at the very least.
He looked concussed in my books and he also played like he was concussed.
We all know recurring issues take much longer to come back from.
He missed what 12 games after the Kucherov hit...
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He missed 12 games last season, not sure if it was all for that hit.
 
EXPOS123 said:
I am seriously questioning the strength and conditioning program of this org.

It makes no sense that our guys can’t take any physicality (not talking about Barron as that was a hockey play)

I haven’t seen any team so injury prone as ours - they must be doing something different.

There was a reason why the Rangers moved on from their athletic director - why did we hire him?

I mean how can a giant like Slaf keep getting injured?

There’s something not being done right
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Pssst Slafkovsky, played 82 games last year under this new staff. This is his first injury and it seems minor
 
EXPOS123 said:
I am seriously questioning the strength and conditioning program of this org.

It makes no sense that our guys can’t take any physicality (not talking about Barron as that was a hockey play)

I haven’t seen any team so injury prone as ours - they must be doing something different.

There was a reason why the Rangers moved on from their athletic director - why did we hire him?

I mean how can a giant like Slaf keep getting injured?

There’s something not being done right
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We already replaced the staff for this staff.
 
Apoplectic Habs Fan said:
Mystery solved

In all honesty, i think the lack of structure and system is big part of these injuries

Defenseman and forwards are exhausting themselves defending, then taking big hits just trying to clear a puck, add in the blocked shots.

It has to take its toll
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The blocked shots... there is soo much separation between point men and Habs forwards that they have a ton of time to wind up and slap it into the Habs' crew that's already been hemmed in their own end for 2 minutes or more.
 
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Apoplectic Habs Fan said:
Mystery solved

In all honesty, i think the lack of structure and system is big part of these injuries

Defenseman and forwards are exhausting themselves defending, then taking big hits just trying to clear a puck, add in the blocked shots.

It has to take its toll
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It is a possibility but for blocked shots I only recall Savard and Pearson getting hurt. I'm curious where team ranks on hits taken and blocked shots since last year.
 
EXPOS123 said:
I am seriously questioning the strength and conditioning program of this org.

It makes no sense that our guys can’t take any physicality (not talking about Barron as that was a hockey play)

I haven’t seen any team so injury prone as ours - they must be doing something different.

There was a reason why the Rangers moved on from their athletic director - why did we hire him?

I mean how can a giant like Slaf keep getting injured?

There’s something not being done right
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The main problem is our elite player getting injure : Slaf, Guhle, Dach and reinbacher....They are all above 6ft2 lol.... I can understand Caufield or Newhook getting injure....
 
Guhle is still not skating. I hate to stir up shit, and this is just my opinion and I hope Habs don’t have to do that but... once Guhle is healthy again and can last a few games... i'd look to trade him. For a ransom. Not just for anyone of course, but definitely for someone who is top pairing material as well as can actually go through the season without being sideline more than half the games. Throw in Dvorak as a sweetener.
Now, generally nobody can predict longevity cause injuries happen, but with Guhle it really is becoming evident that he is unlikely to have a season where he is mostly healthy. I like him a lot and I would not want to lose him, but man... this is ridiculous.
 
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The Real Timo said:
Guhle is still not skating. I hate to stir up shit, and this is just my opinion and I hope Habs don’t have to do that but... once Guhle is healthy again and can last a few games... i'd look to trade him. For a ransom. Not just for anyone of course, but definitely for someone who is top pairing material as well as can actually go through the season without being sideline more than half the games. Throw in Dvorak as a sweetener.
Now, generally nobody can predict longevity cause injuries happen, but with Guhle it really is becoming evident that he is unlikely to have a season where he is mostly healthy. I like him a lot and I would not want to lose him, but man... this is ridiculous.
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Agree and it is why I was open to that last season. The more we wait, the lower his value will might become. Imagine you get an offer for real top 6 forward. Hard to pass.
Nothing against Ghule but availability is the most important skill and he hasn't been very good at that so far.
 
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