2024-2025 Blues Trade Proposals Thread.

bleedblue1223

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I wonder if a deal surrounding Binnington and Martin Necas makes sense for both teams...
It could, they'd be silly to move him with the season that he's having though. I do think he's eventually traded, but probably at the upcoming draft if he continues this pace. Or maybe they all have a change of heart and he's viewed as a long-term piece again. They can't let him walk as a UFA.
 

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Their goaltending hasn't been very impressive in recent post-seasons. I'm not one to let their forwards off the hook when their offense dries up in the 2nd and 3rd rounds, but they could absolutely use a gamer like Binner.
Kochetkov is a good goalie and someone the Canes are hoping is their goalie of the future. I highly doubt they're interested in blocking him long-term with Binnington and his contract. I certainly don't think they'd trade Necas and thin themselves out at forward to do so. Freddy Anderson is a solid goalie too so it's not like they're thin at the position when healthy.

I love Binnington, but what he did in the playoffs on the run to the Cup was almost a half decade ago and last season aside, he hasn't performed at the level of someone who you would think a playoff team is going to give up a premium asset like Necas to add.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if the Blues were in a playoff series today, I'd feel great with Binnington as our starting goaltender. I just don't think people around the league put him on the same pedestal.
 

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Kochetkov is a good goalie and someone the Canes are hoping is their goalie of the future. I highly doubt they're interested in blocking him long-term with Binnington and his contract. I certainly don't think they'd trade Necas and thin themselves out at forward to do so. Freddy Anderson is a solid goalie too so it's not like they're thin at the position when healthy.

I love Binnington, but what he did in the playoffs on the run to the Cup was almost a half decade ago and last season aside, he hasn't performed at the level of someone who you would think a playoff team is going to give up a premium asset like Necas to add.

I've said it before and I'll say it again, if the Blues were in a playoff series today, I'd feel great with Binnington as our starting goaltender. I just don't think people around the league put him on the same pedestal.

I'm pretty high on Kochetkov myself. Every time the Canes have started the playoffs, he's been relegated to backup behind Andersen.

He's played a total of 6 playoff games over the past 3 years. Andersen was hurt in 21-22 when Kochetkov played 4 games. I believe Raanta was as well, but can't recall.

In the only 2022-23 playoff game Kochetkov played ~40 mins, I can't seem to find if he was pulled due to poor performance or if he entered in relief due to injury.

I think the Canes may be more receptive than you think about pulling in a playoff goalie like Binner. Kochetkov hasn't seized the role in any given season with the Canes, he's risen to the occasion when Raanta/Andersen have been out in previous seasons. That's a very important distinction.

Andersen has now missed significant time in 4/5 past seasons with his current absence. Worth noting is that Rod Brind'Amour is on record stating that Freddy will be out long term currently and the Canes are contemplating if surgery is necessary (link below).

I believe Kochetkov will be trusted to get the Canes through the regular season if Spencer Martin shows himself to be a competent backup but if Freddy isn't on track to return before the playoffs - I expect a move to acquire a more veteran goalie with a playoff track record to happen before the TDL.

I don't think the current front office will hold back on trying to capitalize on the current window - adding Binnington would see both goalies become UFAs after the 2026-27 season. They could easily run a 1A/B tandem and extend Kochetkov in the 2026 off-season to soothe any hurt feelings. And I'd imagine a cup ring would probably mitigate those too.

 

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The Hurricanes absolutely need Binnington, I watch them a lot and talk almost every day with one of their fans. They are fragile in net and now Anderson is out again.

They are not comfortable riding with Kochetkov and they are correct
Yeah, I do think Carolina will eventually do what we did with Ryan Miller, they'll just hope it turns out better for them than it was for us.
 

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The Hurricanes absolutely need Binnington, I watch them a lot and talk almost every day with one of their fans. They are fragile in net and now Anderson is out again.

They are not comfortable riding with Kochetkov and they are correct

This discomfort about Kochetkov in net - do you have a sense if that's about his lack of post season experience, or are they uncomfortable with Kochetkov being their starter during the regular season as well for an extended period of time?
 

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Yeah, I do think Carolina will eventually do what we did with Ryan Miller, they'll just hope it turns out better for them than it was for us.
Elliott wasn't constantly hurt, and Binnington is a nails playoff goalie who doesn't allow 4 goals on 22 shots or 4 goals on 24 shots or 4 goals on 23 shots like Ryan Four Goal Miller would
 

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This discomfort about Kochetkov in net - do you have a sense if that's about his lack of post season experience, or are they uncomfortable with Kochetkov being their starter during the regular season as well for an extended period of time?
I think it's more about getting over the hump and winning it all than the regular season.
 

bleedblue1223

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I think it's more about getting over the hump and winning it all than the regular season.
It's a situation that reminds me of when Allen was the starter. Early in his career, you had the belief that he could possibly be the guy, but then you slowly realize that he just isn't, so you either chase vets or hope one of your other young goalies in the system can be that guy.
 

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