2024-2025 Blues Multi-Purpose Thread.

[Stealth JD]

Blues upcoming schedule looks daunting without Thomas. If they can't get 2 points versus Philly, the tank-a-thon may be on. Obviously, as shown in Toronto, they could win against anyone on any given night and the goalies are more than capable of stealing games they deserve to lose, but heading into the next month of matchups I don't know how many games the Blues would be the favored team to win.

vs. Utah, @ Buffalo, vs. San Jose, @ Islanders - maybe the Blues would be favored...but they've also got a tendency to play down to (or below) their opponent so they could very well be joining Philly, Pittsburgh, Chicago and San Jose in being several games under .500 by the end of the month. Blues have 15 games between now and the end of November. Winning 7-8 of those seems formidable.

 

[Brian39]

No big moves.
Saad- 2nd and B level prospect would be the ask
Leddy- 2nd and B level prospect would be the ask
Suter- Ask for a 2nd, expect a 3rd
Faksa- ask for a 2nd, expect a 3rd
KK/Perunovich- throw aways to open spots for some of the kids

I'm not sure why we would be setting the ask at anything less than a 1st for Saad or Leddy. Retention is the expected norm for deadline deals. If we're shopping him at the deadline and not the summer, then the assumption is that we are eating money and a retention slot for the rest of this year and next year.

Saad is a damn near lock for 20 goals every year and he does that without needing top unit PP time or offensively skewed deployment. His 21 even strength goals last year was tied for 43rd in the league. He's a vet with 2 Cup rings who can play decent defense.

Leddy has played some of the best hockey of his career in his time in St. Louis. He returned a 2nd+ the two times he was traded in 2021/22, which was the final year of his deal. Even if you don't believe his St. Louis play has increased his raw value, he has an additional year at a noticeably better AAV than he did back then. We'll see how he looks after returning from injury, but if he looks bad/limited then why sell low at this deadline?

I get that teams very well might not give us a 1st for either/both, but we have the ability to hold them and try again on draft day when the 2nd rounder you get could be pick 33-48 instead of pick 49-64.

 

[Mike Liut]

No big moves.
Saad- 2nd and B level prospect would be the ask
Leddy- 2nd and B level prospect would be the ask
Suter- Ask for a 2nd, expect a 3rd
Faksa- ask for a 2nd, expect a 3rd
KK/Perunovich- throw aways to open spots for some of the kids

I’d be down with those moves.

 

[Stealth JD]

Faksa is f***ing terrible. So many blind passes to nobody (unless you count the other team). I’d be shocked if he brought back anything…Dallas paid for him to go away and it looks like a wise move that the Blues should’ve been skeptical of at the time.

Between Texier, Schenn, Faksa, Toropchenko, Sundqvist, Walker, Kapanen & Bolduc there aren’t enough healthy scratches to go around for Bannister. Somebody’s got to play. 15 points across 64 games with lousy defense and poor puck management. Fire every one of these damn guys into the sun for all I care.

At least Bolduc is young and has upside. And the best I can say about Kapanen is that he’s not actively hurting you (when he contributes nothing). The opportunity cost is irrelevant because every other guy who is a consideration for his minutes is somehow worse. I love the Aussie, he’s got more heart than most of this roster, but the fact that he’s getting regular minutes is a big damn red flag.

I know we all hated last years bottom six…but this one ain’t much better. Joseph and Saad are fine, if they’re playing on the third line where they belong but we’ve got too many guys playing too high up the lineup out of necessity because the top-6 is a wasteland of qualified talent. Woof.

 

[Reality Czech]

Faksa is f***ing terrible. So many blind passes to nobody (unless you count the other team). I’d be shocked if he brought back anything…Dallas paid for him to go away and it looks like a wise move that the Blues should’ve been skeptical of at the time.

Between Texier, Schenn, Faksa, Toropchenko, Sundqvist, Walker, Kapanen & Bolduc there aren’t enough healthy scratches to go around for Bannister. Somebody’s got to play. 15 points across 64 games with lousy defense and poor puck management. Fire every one of these damn guys into the sun for all I care.

At least Bolduc is young and has upside. And the best I can say about Kapanen is that he’s not actively hurting you (when he contributes nothing). The opportunity cost is irrelevant because every other guy who is a consideration for his minutes is somehow worse. I love the Aussie, he’s got more heart than most of this roster, but the fact that he’s getting regular minutes is a big damn red flag.

I know we all hated last years bottom six…but this one ain’t much better. Joseph and Saad are fine, if they’re playing on the third line where they belong but we’ve got too many guys playing too high up the lineup out of necessity because the top-6 is a wasteland of qualified talent. Woof.

Thank you for joining for this week's episode of overreaction theatre lol.

Gotta love it when fans blame everyone BUT the top players who are earning the big bucks. If our top stars could have contributed at least one goal, then there's a good chance we at least get a point last night. But no, it's always the role players to blame I guess. Buch and Kyrou have been disappointing since they don't have Thomas feeding them great passes all the time. Buch hasn't scored in 8 games and Kyrou 10. That's shameful.

 

[bleedblue1223]

We certainly have issues with the bottom 6, and guys like Texier and Schenn should be better because they are middle 6 players. At the same time, they are probably meeting realistic expectations for where they are at now as players. If they were preforming better, they'd be exceeding expectations. Guys like Kyrou and Buchnevich need to be better, Buch has sort of an excuse because he's not a center. After a hot start, Kyrou is back to his historical early season struggles. Buchnevich is horrific in the middle, the experiment failed, it needs to end, we are better off with him on the wing and suffering with Schenn or whoever else in a larger role than they should be in.

On a positive note, Broberg continues to be really good.