2024/2025 Around the League

LOFIN

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I’m curious, if Zibanejad and Kakko are the top centers, what are Trocheck and Chytil the Beetle doing?

Edit: Oh never mind, he’s hurt.
Trocheck has been invisible, and Chytil, like you pointed out, is hurt. Looked great to start the season though.

His injury is is also very concerning. It's not a concussion, but he has been out for like two weeks now, "day-to-day"?

And I refered to Kakko actually looking like a #2C, not playing at that position. Zibanejad and Trocheck are playing, but doing f*** all.
 
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McMetal

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Makar has been far and way the best defenseman in the NHL this year. In all zones.

Columbus would trade two or three Werenskis for one Makar.
Yeah, I think Werenski has been an underrated defenseman for a while, and I'm a bigger fan of him than most. But he is at least a couple tiers below Makar on the ice. Very good and can be really dynamic, but on his best day he barely sniffs Makar's average level.
 

Alienblood

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Yeah, I think Werenski has been an underrated defenseman for a while, and I'm a bigger fan of him than most. But he is at least a couple tiers below Makar on the ice. Very good and can be really dynamic, but on his best day he barely sniffs Makar's average level.
Oh definitely, all my point was he's been really good so far.

The season is young these games are like exhibition hockey
 
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JudoKoala

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What was that question at :45?

I migth be missing a few key words, but it sounded like Sacco was asked about still having confidence in someone, or the team, and his response was, "Well.....yeah, you could say that." :laugh:

Yeah I have trouble making out some of what's being asked, but I THINK that comment from Dater (Lol) was talking about John-Michael Liles, and asking about his "confidence" and "getting back to his game..." I don't remember what was going on at the time, but I guess he was playing like shit and bringing him up triggered ol' Joe for whatever reason :laugh:
 

Foppa2118

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Just the GOAT doing GOAT things



The initial phrasing of this tweet with the word "typically", combined with his fight the other day, and the trade rumors, had me expecting that story to turn out a different way. :laugh:

Like, "Sidney Crosby typically hosts a Thanksgiving meal at his house for teammates who don't have plans or family in town, but after the way they've played this year, he told them all to f*** off and feed themselves."
 

McMetal

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The initial phrasing of this tweet with the word "typically", combined with his fight the other day, and the trade rumors, had me expecting that story to turn out a different way. :laugh:

Like, "Sidney Crosby typically hosts a Thanksgiving meal at his house for teammates who don't have plans or family in town, but after the way they've played this year, he told them all to f*** off and feed themselves."
Sid's not dumb. He knows more about the game of hockey than all of us combined, and he sure as shit knows that the roster sucks and will continue to suck for the rest of his career. I believe he fully accepts that and is content to be a lifer in Pittsburgh and ride off into the sunset with Malkin and Letang. He doesn't have anything left to accomplish for his career except climbing a few spots higher into the top ten all time in points.
 

Foppa2118

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Sid's not dumb. He knows more about the game of hockey than all of us combined, and he sure as shit knows that the roster sucks and will continue to suck for the rest of his career. I believe he fully accepts that and is content to be a lifer in Pittsburgh and ride off into the sunset with Malkin and Letang. He doesn't have anything left to accomplish for his career except climbing a few spots higher into the top ten all time in points.

I think you're most likely right. It's a nice dream, but it would also make the Mitts trade kind of unnecessary, since it didn't fully pay off last year.
 
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Foppa2118

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trade for him before his stock rises too much

Then trade Gibson to Kyle Dubas for the Pens 1st to select whatever the hot goalie prospect is this year, and pick up Jonas Johansen on waivers.

Problem solved. As in back to back top 5 picks for our next rebuild. :sarcasm:
 

Tralfamadore

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Sep 25, 2011
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I'm all aboard the Quinn Hughes train. I think he's slightly passed Makar at this point. He controls the game shift to shift much better. Cale can take over games like no other defenseman but doesn't have the consistency game to game or shift to shift that Hughes does.

Canucks fans gon be insufferable when/if he wins another Norris.
 

Bender

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I'm all aboard the Quinn Hughes train. I think he's slightly passed Makar at this point. He controls the game shift to shift much better. Cale can take over games like no other defenseman but doesn't have the consistency game to game or shift to shift that Hughes does.

Canucks fans gon be insufferable when/if he wins another Norris.
Instead of the endless debates, how about we just wait and see how each performs when it counts most at the 4-Nations?
 

LOFIN

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I'm all aboard the Quinn Hughes train. I think he's slightly passed Makar at this point. He controls the game shift to shift much better. Cale can take over games like no other defenseman but doesn't have the consistency game to game or shift to shift that Hughes does.

Canucks fans gon be insufferable when/if he wins another Norris.
Yeah yeah, f*** off

I don't give a flying f*** if Hughes "controls the game better", if Makar scores on such a higher pace. Barkov also controls the game better than any center in the league. He's not better than MacKinnon or McDavid.
 

Tralfamadore

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Yeah yeah, f*** off

I don't give a flying f*** if Hughes "controls the game better", if Makar scores on such a higher pace. Barkov also controls the game better than any center in the league. He's not better than MacKinnon or McDavid.

Makar doesn't score at such a higher pace though. Not lately. The past 3 seasons they're pretty much neck and neck. Hughes doesn't get MacKinnon to work with either.
 

LOFIN

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Makar doesn't score at such a higher pace though. Not lately. The past 3 seasons they're pretty much neck and neck. Hughes doesn't get MacKinnon to work with either.
It's not "neck and neck" though.

Who needs Canucks fans to be insufferable when we have a cancer like you among us.
 
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UnkleKraker

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In other news, we can be glad we aren't paying Grubs $6.8M for games like this. Makes Georgie look all world.

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Tralfamadore

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It's not "neck and neck" though.

Who needs Canucks fans to be insufferable when we have a cancer like you among us.

Haha what a loser.

Cale is my favorite player in the league. Look at my avatar. I'm just sharing what I see when I watch other players in the league in the around the league thread. These two guys are by far the best defensemen in the league. The comparison is valid to make.
 
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LOFIN

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Haha what a loser.

Cale is my favorite player in the league. Look at my avatar. I'm just sharing what I see when I watch other players in the league in the around the league thread. These two guys are by far the best defensemen in the league. The comparison is valid to make.
And every now and then someone tries to make a case against McDavid. MacKinnon making a pretty good one right now TBH. But we know the answer. And it's the same with Cale vs Quinn.

I do think, Q. Hughes is by far the clear #2 Dman in the league as it stands. A few years ago, it was a group of Makar, Hughes, Dahlin, Fox, Heiskanen. Makar I think had separated himself even back then, Hughes has now done the same.
 

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