Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v9 | Thu, Aug 24 | @ BAL | 7:00pm ET/4:00pm PT | Berrios vs Gibson

[Nineteen67]

Just watching the ceremony now....it is really great seeing all the old guys and a lot of great moments I just wish our games ops wasn't so awful. Just completely incapable of letting any moment breath without blasting some shitty pop song behind to drown out the crowd lol

Great ceremony. But wow, it was very Torontoesque.

 

[CabanaBoy5]

Another day, another loss where the offence just doesn't get it done. Our pitching has to allow less than 3 runs a game every game in order for us to have a chance of winning. There are so many players underperforming that it's no wonder the offence isn't reaching expectations.

Most point to hitting with RISP but the number of players on this team with an average to below average OPS shines a clear light on why people say this offence is putrid, underwhelming, pathetic, {add derogatory adjective}, etc. Too many of our starters are not near their career OPS

Vladdy Career .846 2023 .778
Springer .839 .724
Kirk .759 .686
Varsho .707 .634

Our irregulars have terrible OPS and not even to their career avg.

Biggio .685
Espinal .624
DeJong .118
Lukes .596

Belt, Chapman, Jansen have a good OPS but flaws in other parts like SO%.

There are obviously other stats contributing to their lack of offensive consistency. But it's not just their hitting with RISP as many see as their only problem offensively.

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[canucksfan]

Idk personally I'd replace Shatkins with Alex Anthopoulos, but I guess that's off the table.

I suppose I'd prefer a competent GM that know how to draft and develop players, and can sign them to team friendly contracts

Overall, they have done a good job. They turned the team around quickly, more involved in the free agent market, IFA market, and built a high-end development site. The team could get rid of them and easily bring in people who are worse.

The problem with this year, a number of hitters are having down years. Personally, I would have changed the hitting coaches before the All-Star break because it seems something isn't working.

If the team misses the playoffs, James Click is in the organization and he could be given a larger role or even replace Atkins. Shapiro would stay.

 

[shaner8989]

That lineup cannot be any worse. Pure dog shit

 

[MK78]

I don't see a problem with Mark Shapiro. He's done a good job of being a good head of the franchise and has facilitated some real nice improvement to the ball park, which are not yet complete. And he has gotten the ownership to spend - something which was painfully an issue in the Godfrey & Beeston years since Rogers has owned the Jays. People are still coming to games and the attendance is good, I believe I heard recently 3rd in the AL.

The fault lies more with Ross Atkins and the management of the minor leagues as well, where they haven't scouted and developed good homegrown talent so there is depth. It was painfully obvious when they sent down Manoah the first time, they had no reliable starting pitcher in the minors to fill in.

 

[habamillions]

Jays really need to figure out how to cash in with the offense. Seattle after today have a very easy schedule and will likely pass the jays and not look back.

 

[canucksfan]

I don't see a problem with Mark Shapiro. He's done a good job of being a good head of the franchise and has facilitated some real nice improvement to the ball park, which are not yet complete. And he has gotten the ownership to spend - something which was painfully an issue in the Godfrey & Beeston years since Rogers has owned the Jays. People are still coming to games and the attendance is good, I believe I heard recently 3rd in the AL.

The fault lies more with Ross Atkins and the management of the minor leagues as well, where they haven't scouted and developed good homegrown talent so there is depth. It was painfully obvious when they sent down Manoah the first time, they had no reliable starting pitcher in the minors to fill in.

Agreed. Overall, I think they have done a decent job with the position players but the pitching has been lacking. There seems to be some improvement with it at the lower levels, especially with bullpen arms. My other concern is Atkins, seems to be too patient at times with keeping players and managers.

I am always cautious about firing someone. Is there someone else available who's better? A painful example is Gillis with the Canucks. Smart guy but he got fired and replaced with a complete moron who ran the team into the ground for 8+ years.

 

[trellaine201]

Good start. Thanks Belt.

 

[LaP]

Vlad needs to take better decisions at bat. Why do you swing at this bad pitch with a count of 2-0.

 

[canucksfan]

Huge homer by Varsho!

 

[the valiant effort]

Everything is going to be okay after all

 

[VanillaCoke]

Much more entertaining, good to see varsho and vlad get big hits

 

[the valiant effort]

Varsho/Springer don’t seem to take their copious near misses seriously out there in centre-right. Smarten the **** up

 

[Dr.Funk]

 

[canucksfan]

Varsho has been hitting well recently. He went back to his setup while he was Arizona

 

[tmlfan98]

Jays gotta make sure EE lives in the dugout now.

 

[jetsforever]

Another good day for Ryu - 5 IP, 0 ER

 

[canucksfan]

Another good day for Ryu - 5 IP, 0 ER

Yup. Without the Belt error he likely goes 6 innings. Cubs are a very good offensive team too.

 

[canucksfan]

Cabrera has been a great pickup.

 

[chewey]

Agreed. Overall, I think they have done a decent job with the position players but the pitching has been lacking. There seems to be some improvement with it at the lower levels, especially with bullpen arms. My other concern is Atkins, seems to be too patient at times with keeping players and managers.

I am always cautious about firing someone. Is there someone else available who's better? A painful example is Gillis with the Canucks. Smart guy but he got fired and replaced with a complete moron who ran the team into the ground for 8+ years.

Jays have James Click waiting in the wings:

Blue Jays hire former Astros GM Click to VP role

The Blue Jays have hired former Astros GM James Click to be the team's new vice president of baseball strategy.

www.espn.com

I have my own opinions of Atkins and am indifferent if the team moves on from him, but there is someone in house who is qualified. Whether they are “better” or not is to be seen.

 

[Vector]

Yup. Without the Belt error he likely goes 6 innings. Cubs are a very good offensive team too.

Basically the best in the league over the last month or whatever graphic it was they showed yesterday.

 

[Golden_Jet]

Did Bautista do a mic toss like Gord Miller suggested to him? Hope so, would of been funny.

 

[canucksfan]

Jays have James Click waiting in the wings:

Blue Jays hire former Astros GM Click to VP role

The Blue Jays have hired former Astros GM James Click to be the team's new vice president of baseball strategy.

www.espn.com

I have my own opinions of Atkins and am indifferent if the team moves on from him, but there is someone in house who is qualified. Whether they are “better” or not is to be seen.

Definitely. I have mentioned Click in previous posts as a potential replacement.

 

[Suntouchable13]

I'd just ditch DeJong when Bo comes back