Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v4 | Sun, May 21 | vs BAL | 1:30pm ET/10:30am PT | Kremer vs Gausman

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If the Yankees were relaying signs from the dugout Astros-style and Judge was looking over to see that : very bad.

If Judge was able to figure out what was coming by glancing over to see where the 1B was positioning himself : tip of the hat. That's awesome.

I lean towards the cheating side considering they were caught already for illicit sign stealing before. I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt.
 
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I lean towards the cheating side considering they were caught already for illicit sign stealing before. I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt.

I lean the other way because why would you cheat like that up 6-0 in the 8th inning?

If this happened for his HR at 0-0 in the 1st I'd be very suspicious but I went back and looked at that and everything was as normal for that one.
 
I lean towards the cheating side considering they were caught already for illicit sign stealing before. I am not giving them the benefit of the doubt.
Isn't PitchCom supposed to eliminate such instances? Also, looking at it from a different angle (no pun intended), isn't glancing over and not focusing solely on the pitcher breaking one's concentration? That's a lot going on over a few split seconds.
 
Isn't PitchCom supposed to eliminate such instances? Also, looking at it from a different angle (no pun intended), isn't glancing over and not focusing solely on the pitcher breaking one's concentration? That's a lot going on over a few split seconds.
If there were 8 or less seconds on the pitch clock remaining, that is an automatic strike by rule.

The hitter must be focused on the pitcher for the last 8 seconds.
 
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I don't particularly care but Judge saying he was looking over during the at bat because he was annoyed with his teammates/manager being on the umps ass is complete bullshit to the point it is hilarious. I am impressed he said it with a straight face.
 
Isn't PitchCom supposed to eliminate such instances? Also, looking at it from a different angle (no pun intended), isn't glancing over and not focusing solely on the pitcher breaking one's concentration? That's a lot going on over a few split seconds.
Just musing....what's to stop a team from intercepting signals by getting a PitchCom modified and capable of accessing all frequencies??
 
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Just musing....what's to stop a team from intercepting signals by getting a PitchCom modified and capable of accessing all frequencies??
I was literally thinking this, if teams could reverse engineer the device, and see what makes it tick, and use it to their advantage.
 
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I was literally thinking this, if teams could reverse engineer the device, and see what makes it tick, and use it to their advantage.
Just musing....what's to stop a team from intercepting signals by getting a PitchCom modified and capable of accessing all frequencies??
Per their site, Pitchcom is virtually unhackable (PitchCom - The Best Covert Sports Communication System)

On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the Yankees dugout could see Kirk's receiver and figured out which button he was htiting. I know last year, he wore his receiver on his left knee (the one visible to the 1st base dugout).
 
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On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the Yankees dugout could see Kirk's receiver and figured out which button he was htiting. I know last year, he wore his receiver on his left knee (the one visible to the 1st base dugout).
See, if this is the case, then I actually give credit to the Yankees for picking up on this. No different than picking up on a pitcher tipping his pitches.
 
See, if this is the case, then I actually give credit to the Yankees for picking up on this. No different than picking up on a pitcher tipping his pitches.
It was actually something that made me nervous last year, because while Jansen wears his close to his thigh (where no one can see), Kirk puts his on his knee.
 
Per their site, Pitchcom is virtually unhackable (PitchCom - The Best Covert Sports Communication System)

On the other hand, it is entirely possible that the Yankees dugout could see Kirk's receiver and figured out which button he was htiting. I know last year, he wore his receiver on his left knee (the one visible to the 1st base dugout).

See, if this is the case, then I actually give credit to the Yankees for picking up on this. No different than picking up on a pitcher tipping his pitches.

Belt was wearing the Pitchcom and I think the most likely thing is that when Kirk was calling the pitch Judge noticed that Belt was taking a step or two one direction or the other depending on whether it was going to be a fastball or breaking pitch - ie shading toward the line a bit more on a fastball assuming he'd be more likely to be late on it.

And if that's what happened, fair play.
 
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Belt was wearing the Pitchcom and I think the most likely thing is that when Kirk was calling the pitch Judge noticed that Belt was taking a step or two one direction or the other depending on whether it was going to be a fastball or breaking pitch - ie shading toward the line a bit more on a fastball assuming he'd be more likely to be late on it.

And if that's what happened, fair play.
I'm not normally one for the conspiracy stuff, and I'm obviously just guessing here to some extent, but it sure looks like he's looking a hell of a lot farther over than the 1B. Your eyes barely have to move at all to shift from the pitcher to first base, and we see guys take a quick glance at the first base coach all the time (though maybe not normally that late in a pitch).

I think he was clearly looking into the dugout.
 
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I'm not normally one for the conspiracy stuff, and I'm obviously just guessing here to some extent, but it sure looks like he's looking a hell of a lot farther over than the 1B. Your eyes barely have to move at all to shift from the pitcher to first base, and we see guys take a quick glance at the first base coach all the time (though maybe not normally that late in a pitch).

I think he was clearly looking into the dugout.

… and looks like it was at the 1B coach.

But again, super weird to be pulling something fishy when you’re cruising to a blowout win. The whole thing is just odd. And fascinating.
 
First AB with Judge should be entertaining. Would like to go with an opener tonight to zing one up around his head.
 
First AB with Judge should be entertaining. Would like to go with an opener tonight to zing one up around his head.
Those always seem to go the same way, especially against the Yankees: Jays throw inside. Benches clear and there's lots of yelling but nothing happens. Yankees immediately intentionally hit someone in retaliation. Umps issue a warning to both teams. A few innings later, the Jays hit someone, clearly unintentionally (a curveball with a couple runners on or something) and the pitcher and manager and maybe someone else gets ejected. Then someone probably gets suspended for a game or something as a bonus.
 
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Those always seem to go the same way, especially against the Yankees: Jays throw inside. Benches clear and there's lots of yelling but nothing happens. Yankees immediately intentionally hit someone in retaliation. Umps issue a warning to both teams. A few innings later, the Jays hit someone, clearly unintentionally (a curveball with a couple runners on or something) and the pitcher and manager and maybe someone else gets ejected. Then someone probably gets suspended for a game or something as a bonus.

Or the warning is issued before the game knowing the Jays would be the retaliators.
 
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I feel like this whole thing is overblown. Jackson obviously tipped his pitches, the Yankees caught it and were relaying it to Judge.

There was no electronics used given he was the only guy to get affected by it, you can not like it sure but you need to figure it out and make sure it doesn't happen again.
 
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