GDT: 2023 Upper Deck NHL Draft: 1st Round, June 28, 7 p.m. et | ESPN, SN, TVAS: Nashville, TN

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HabbyGuy

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You asked why they wouldn’t pick him. I gave you the reasons. If you don’t want the answers don’t ask the questions.

As I’ve said repeatedly, I would draft him if he’s available.

It's because your reasons don't compute with their actions. Dach and Newhook we're developed out of our hands, and yet we still gave large assets in order to claim them. And despite them being in the NHL Dach had many question marks as to where he was, and Newhook hasn't be able to show what's he's capable of yet. So it doesn't hold water.
 
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YOU, of all people couldn't sense the sarcasm? lol c'mon man.
What sarcasm? This is a sterile medium. You didn’t use an emoji. I’m not a mind reader nor can I imagine your facial expressions when you’re asking such a direct question. So I answered it on face value.

Maybe set it up better if you’re intending a joke? Your comedy routines need work. ;)

You’ve yet to top Cocky Jogger. Now THAT was comedy gold.
 

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Again, in the context of what I was saying the Canadiens KNOW WHAT THEY’RE GETTING with him. They got him at a lower price than when he was drafted. Just as we did with Dach last year.

The point that I was making was that we wouldn’t have control over Mitch’s development over the next few years. That’s an unknown and factors into the risk calculation.

2 firsts and 2 seconds, along with moving a Romanov in order to facilitate the move is not a pittance.

What sarcasm? This is a sterile medium. You didn’t use an emoji. I’m not a mind reader nor can I imagine your facial expressions when you’re asking such a direct question. So I answered it on face value.

Maybe set it up better if you’re intending a joke? Your comedy routines need work. ;)

You’ve yet to top Cocky Jogger. Now THAT was comedy gold.

LOL WHATEVER. It was as clear as your smug post on your nose. :P
 
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It's because your resaons don't compute with their actions. Dach and Newhook were developed out of our hands, and yet we still gave large assets in order to claim them. And despite hem being in the NHL Dach had many question marks as to where he was, and Newhook hasn't be able to show what's he's capable of yet. So it doesn't hold water.
You aren’t reading my posts. And you seem to think I’m advocating for something or trying to convince you of something… I’m just telling you why they might not draft him because you asked the question.

We’re talking about two different things. Newhook has nothing to do with how the Habs will evaluate the risks with Mich.

The concern is that we don’t have control over his development. It’s going to factor into their calculations when evaluating different picks. They want him developed their way and won’t have control over that. This is probably the biggest risk factor they’re worrying about.

Us trading for Newhook is not a parallel and has nothing to do with anything here. We paid a cheaper price for a player we know wasn’t developed well.
 

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We risked in taking Galchenyuk (did not play in his draft year), and failed.
We risked in taking Kotkaniemi (he was a reach because we needed a C), and we failed
We risked in taking A. Kostitsyn (a player with medical issue from a country producing few NHL players), and we failed.
And Caufield was not a risk at 15 after dropping there. He was then the obvious pick. Price was a risk.
Risking is not always the way to go.
I don't consider Galchenyuk a failured. Have you seen the top 5 in 2012? One of the worst. He has the second best player of this year top 5. KK has has a reach true. He has also the safe choice. We did not risk much with him. We know he has going to be a nhl player. Just not a superstar player. Drafting Quinn Hughes would have been a riskier choice.

Michkov is the second BPA in this draft.
 

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If Michkov is as sure a thing as some of you think, he won't be available by the 5th pick.
I'll trust HuGo's pick tomorrow and praise or crucify them in a few years when we can actually judge if they made the right decision. Any other reaction seems plain dumb to me.
 
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Always the most exciting/disappointing time of the year as a Habs fan, fully expect to be disappointed in the outcome It is seeming like Michkov is unlikely but Hughes runs a pretty tight ship so I think no one actually has a clue. Either way I am excited to see how tomorrow pans out for better or worse.

 

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If Michkov is as sure a thing as some of you think, he won't be available by the 5th pick.
I'll trust HuGo's pick tomorrow and praise or crucify them in a few years when we can actually judge if they made the right decision. Any other reaction seems plain dumb to me.

I have huge doubts he will be and have stated such many times. A part of me hopes this is true, because passing on him would be completely moronic.

Apparently the interview went well, so what's the problem?
 
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One thing that's interesting is that NHL teams aren't so sure the Habs won't take Michkov. I say this because it seems, from hearsay, that they're targetting the fifth pick. You could just as well target the 6th.

Didn't think this draft would be more exciting than last year, but here we are.
 

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If Michkov is as sure a thing as some of you think, he won't be available by the 5th pick.
I'll trust HuGo's pick tomorrow and praise or crucify them in a few years when we can actually judge if they made the right decision. Any other reaction seems plain dumb to me.
Chicago picking Bedard
Anaheim stated a center and it was Fantiti
Columbus GM literally said he wanted a center , Carsson or Smith
San Jose we simply dont know.
Then us.

If SJ pick Michkov then we pick between Smith or Carlsson whoever is left.

Seems like a really scenario
 
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Character is meaningless. Talent is all there is to it.

I actually prefer people with BAD character, means their talent will be underrated and we can steal them, and then they can win hockey games for us if we just f***ing let them play.

Stop it with the bro science, y'all sound like Health and Lifestyle gurus on Twitter.
 

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Fantilli, Carlsson and Smith would be a catastrophe. Means we missed out on Michkov. Our greatest shot at a legend! Era-defining mistake and/or loss.
 
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Character is meaningless. Talent is all there is to it.

I actually prefer people with BAD character, means their talent will be underrated and we can steal them, and then they can win hockey games for us if we just f***ing let them play.

Stop it with the bro science, y'all sound like Health and Lifestyle gurus on Twitter.

The universe of human character is not separated into good and bad. I think an effective team (in work and life and hockey) has a diversity of character traits that complement eachother.

If there's truth to the claims Michkov is a bit cocky and demanding it could be a welcome counter balance to some of the more fun loving personalities in the locker room.
 
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