Transfer: 2023 Summer Transfer Window - Open Window Edition

[les Habs]

Respectively, They spent 90m on Antony. I don’t want to hear they don’t have budget. Every summer they are spending at the top of the market, even when they are bad

Respectfully, they do have a budget. It’s a simple fact. How that rolls up into their overall finances or how that compares to other clubs is a different story.


As an aside, United have a LOT of work to do to get rid of players. Plenty of overpaid players in that squad who aren’t going to garner a lot of high-profile interest in the transfer market.

 

[Savant]

Budget and FFP are big restrictions for us right now actually. At least in relation to other clubs of our magnitude.

FFP isn’t real

Respectfully, they do have a budget. It’s a simple fact. How that rolls up into their overall finances or how that compares to other clubs is a different story.


As an aside, United have a LOT of work to do to get rid of players. Plenty of overpaid players in that squad who aren’t going to garner a lot of high-profile interest in the transfer market.

When has a players price tag ever voluntarily stopped United from getting a target that they had a legitimate chance at. We could certainly be defining budget differently here though

 

[The Abusement Park]

FFP isn’t real

Regardless of FFP the awful spending is coming back to bite the club now. The Glazers have been slowly bleeding the club dry and the club can‘t go crazy this summer. Sales will be important in funding sales this summer.

 

[les Habs]

When has a players price tag ever voluntarily stopped United from getting a target that they had a legitimate chance at. We could certainly be defining budget differently here though

I’m going by the textbook definition.

Rightly or wrongly, United still generate a lot of revenue.

 

[Savant]

Regardless of FFP the awful spending is coming back to bite the club now. The Glazers have been slowly bleeding the club dry and the club can‘t go crazy this summer. Sales will be important in funding sales this summer.

Yeah that really burned you guys last summer when you spent 90m on Antony and gave Casemiro a bag

I’m going by the textbook definition.

Rightly or wrongly, United still generate a lot of revenue.

Sure. I’m saying they don’t have owners that actively handcuff their spending. Simple as that. Call it potato. Call it potato.

 

[The Abusement Park]

Yeah that really burned you guys last summer when you spent 90m on Antony and gave Casemiro a bag

We spent a chunk of this years budget last summer. I’m not saying we’re poor and not signing anyone this summer, but a net 200mil summer isn’t happening while the Glazers are still in charge. Them
taking dividends, the hellish wage bill, the “marquee” signings that have all failed mainly are starting to leave their mark.

 

[les Habs]

Madrid’s midfielders when Modric signs a new deal:

Modric
Kroos
Ceballos
Camavinga
Tchouameni
Valverde
Bellingham

Plenty of coverage against injuries/suspensions, plenty of room to move sone of them to other positions as has been demonstrated and plenty of egos and salaries to manage. Very curious to see how it all plays out this season and more curious as to the salaries that Modric, Kroos and Ceballos have agreed to.

 

[Savant]

We spent a chunk of this years budget last summer. I’m not saying we’re poor and not signing anyone this summer, but a net 200mil summer isn’t happening while the Glazers are still in charge. Them
taking dividends, the hellish wage bill, the “marquee” signings that have all failed mainly are starting to leave their mark.

I mean net 200 is a lot, but you guys definitely had a net nine figure summer two years ago. Last summer y’all were probably pretty close to that too. That’s not exactly couch change

 

[The Abusement Park]

I mean net 200 is a lot, but you guys definitely had a net nine figure summer two years ago. Last summer y’all were probably pretty close to that too. That’s not exactly couch change

And that’s where the negative affect to the budget is coming from. Doing that for almost every year for a decade. Add to that very little league/continental success, being awful at selling players, and the Glazers siphoning money from the club. It’s not a sustainable practice and it’s biting us in the butt a little
this summer.

 

[Scandale du Jour]

Madrid’s midfielders when Modric signs a new deal:

Modric
Kroos
Ceballos
Camavinga
Tchouameni
Valverde
Bellingham

Plenty of coverage against injuries/suspensions, plenty of room to move sone of them to other positions as has been demonstrated and plenty of egos and salaries to manage. Very curious to see how it all plays out this season and more curious as to the salaries that Modric, Kroos and Ceballos have agreed to.

Modric and Kroos probably took less than before, Ceballos a little more.

 

[robertmac43]

Whoa, looks like Bloom is willing to spend some cash this off season.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

 

[The Abusement Park]

Just you wait, the McTominay+Maguire+25mil bid is going to blow everyones minds

 

[hatterson]

Just you wait, the McTominay+Maguire+25mil bid is going to blow everyones minds

You really think they’ll overbid like that???

 

[The Abusement Park]

You really think they’ll overbid like that???

Anything to seal the deal

 

[Jersey Fresh]

Just you wait, the McTominay+Maguire+25mil bid is going to blow everyones minds

I just can't believe that's real. There's no way any sane person at United thinks that would work.

I hope the Rice thing just gets done soon either way. Focus on the actual incomings. Arsenal will probably counter with some dumb £85M + £5M offer and the whole thing will continue into next week.

 

[The Abusement Park]

I just can't believe that's real. There's no way any sane person at United thinks that would work.

I hope the Rice thing just gets done soon either way. Focus on the actual incomings. Arsenal will probably counter with some dumb £85M + £5M offer and the whole thing will continue into next week.

I mean... it's United. Those two plus cash is seemingly a great deal to the Glazers lmao.

 

[Live in the Now]

Rice will get done now that City got involved because they’ll offer all cash up front and nobody else can or will.

 

[S E P H]

Wow, all the United fans joking about "not overspending" like they are cheap is just hilarious to read. The club spent over a billion in the last decade...

 

[Peen]

Arsenal will get this next offer right and Rice will be confirmed within the week.

 

[hatterson]

Wow, all the United fans joking about "not overspending" like they are cheap is just hilarious to read. The club spent over a billion in the last decade...

No one is saying they're cheap, but the billion dollars in the last decade, limited continental success, and the Glazers continuing to suck crazy amounts of money out of the club mean they can't go splashing 150-200M in a summer right now unless it's funded by sales.

They just had a net 200M+ spend last year, they're not going to do that again this year.

They may end up with 100M net if they can ditch a good amount of salary as well, but that's also theoretically got to bring in 3-4 positions.

Sure. I’m saying they don’t have owners that actively handcuff their spending. Simple as that. Call it potato. Call it potato.

Uhh, United's owners are the absolute textbook of actively handcuffing their spending. United is so far in front (or behind if you want to look at it that way) of the "net dollars owners have spent" category they're basically lapping the field multiple times.

That doesn't mean they're poor, it means if they had been run competently they'd have had *another* 500+M to spend over the last decade in addition to what they already spent because they're an absolute commercial behemoth.

Edit: Obviously realistically, a competent team wouldn't have spent all that money just on players but would have spent on upgrades at OT and the training venue, but the fact that OT is crumbling apart is yet another thing that is slowly starting to catch up to the team.

 

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

United outspent everyone not named city…. We had this discussion already. It’s too early to have it again lol

 

[KJS14]

I just can't believe that's real. There's no way any sane person at United thinks that would work.

I hope the Rice thing just gets done soon either way. Focus on the actual incomings. Arsenal will probably counter with some dumb £85M + £5M offer and the whole thing will continue into next week.

West Ham was begging for a bidding war only for City (with basically unlimited money) to come in and offer the same total fee structured differently. Maybe it's because West Ham's asking price is far above the player's value.

 

[KJS14]

No one is saying they're cheap, but the billion dollars in the last decade, limited continental success, and the Glazers continuing to suck crazy amounts of money out of the club mean they can't go splashing 150-200M in a summer right now unless it's funded by sales.

They just had a net 200M+ spend last year, they're not going to do that again this year.

They may end up with 100M net if they can ditch a good amount of salary as well, but that's also theoretically got to bring in 3-4 positions.


Uhh, United's owners are the absolute textbook of actively handcuffing their spending. United is so far in front (or behind if you want to look at it that way) of the "net dollars owners have spent" category they're basically lapping the field multiple times.

That doesn't mean they're poor, it means if they had been run competently they'd have had *another* 500+M to spend over the last decade in addition to what they already spent because they're an absolute commercial behemoth.

Edit: Obviously realistically, a competent team wouldn't have spent all that money just on players but would have spent on upgrades at OT and the training venue, but the fact that OT is crumbling apart is yet another thing that is slowly starting to catch up to the team.

While all of this may be true, no one is going to feel bad about United only having $1B+ to spend over a decade because they could have had more money. I know you're only responding to others here, but there has been a lot more wrong with United's transfer record over the last decade than not having enough money.

Do the Glazers suck? Yes. Has United wasted resources that dwarf all but ~5 clubs in the world? Also yes.

 

[S E P H]

While all of this may be true, no one is going to feel bad about United only having $1B+ to spend over a decade because they could have had more money. I know you're only responding to others here, but there has been a lot more wrong with United's transfer record over the last decade than not having enough money.

Do the Glazers suck? Yes. Has United wasted resources that dwarf all but ~5 clubs in the world? Also yes.

United could bid for any player in the world including 250 million for Mbappe or 100 million for Rice, straight up cash as City can, they're just going for different players or someone like Mbappe doesn't want to go to Manchester.