Red Sox/MLB 2023 Spring Training Begins- Forbes says Boston Red Sox are worth $4.5 billion

[DKH]

I saw my brother at 18 who was a JR open up my fathers credit card thinking it was for him (debatable) and go on a SD Padres crazy spending spree

The Mets at least make some sense

The Padres are operating like it will be someone else problem in 6 years

 

[McGarnagle]

Where is San Diego's money coming from

 

[CDJ]

Where is San Diego's money coming from

Preller certainly GM’s like he’s on coke, perhaps that’s a side business

I gotta respect it. That owner wants to win before he’s dead. He ain’t even that old but I guess nothing is promised!

They’re dead in the water in a few years so they gotta win it now

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

Most young fans on the east coast will never see the end of a week day playoff game. How is that supposed to sustain a sport?

And not reminisce about the old days because this is a new problem. It was much easier to be a baseball fan as a young kid in the past. Less day games and long night games have hurt it a lot.

To me this I like the rule changes that were made after the devils made the NHL boring. Line change after icing, trapezoid, pick over glass. All used as strategy that made the game less enjoyable.

 

[BigBadBruins7708]

Terrible fan recruitment? The game was losing ratings and slowly dying so they made a change.

Not a change that's going to bring those people in as fans though.

People don't like the game itself. The game is "low action" regardless of how much time there is between pitches. They don't have the attention span for it. Likewise basketball and football are popular because something happens every 30 seconds whether it's points scored or a physical collision.

Case in point. The average MLB game is shorter than the average NFL game. The average MLB game is 3 hours 5 minutes, the average NFL game is 3 hours 12 minutes. On top of that the average NFL game only has 12 minutes of actual play

 

[Morris Wanchuk]

Not a change that's going to bring those people in as fans though.

People don't like the game itself. The game is "low action" regardless of how much time there is between pitches. They don't have the attention span for it. Likewise basketball and football are popular because something happens every 30 seconds whether it's points scored or a physical collision.

Case in point. The average MLB game is shorter than the average NFL game. The average MLB game is 3 hours 5 minutes, the average NFL game is 3 hours 12 minutes. On top of that the average NFL game only has 12 minutes of actual play

Yes but NFL games happen during the day.

In the playoffs you really need to make a decision about what you are doing the next day and if you stay up or not. When I was working in Boston I was getting up at 5am. Was baseball with 5 to 6 hours of sleep? Most fans are going to say no.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Not a change that's going to bring those people in as fans though.

People don't like the game itself. The game is "low action" regardless of how much time there is between pitches. They don't have the attention span for it. Likewise basketball and football are popular because something happens every 30 seconds whether it's points scored or a physical collision.

Case in point. The average MLB game is shorter than the average NFL game. The average MLB game is 3 hours 5 minutes, the average NFL game is 3 hours 12 minutes. On top of that the average NFL game only has 12 minutes of actual play

Apples & Oranges.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

Yes but NFL games happen during the day.

In the playoffs you really need to make a decision about what you are doing the next day and if you stay up or not. When I was working in Boston I was getting up at 5am. Was baseball with 5 to 6 hours of sleep? Most fans are going to say no.

Also a good point. 2 positions ago at work I had to get up at 5am and I could just barely manage a typical Bruins game that ended around 9:30pm. Sox games and baseball in general just aren't like that.

 

[EverettMike]

Yes but NFL games happen during the day.

In the playoffs you really need to make a decision about what you are doing the next day and if you stay up or not. When I was working in Boston I was getting up at 5am. Was baseball with 5 to 6 hours of sleep? Most fans are going to say no.

If an MLB season was only 17 games I wouldn't give a f*** if they all last 5 hours.

162 of them? Let's go, pick up the pace.

 

[smithformeragent]

Boo boo, Lou.

 

[smithformeragent]

This is amazing.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Not a change that's going to bring those people in as fans though.

People don't like the game itself. The game is "low action" regardless of how much time there is between pitches. They don't have the attention span for it. Likewise basketball and football are popular because something happens every 30 seconds whether it's points scored or a physical collision.

Case in point. The average MLB game is shorter than the average NFL game. The average MLB game is 3 hours 5 minutes, the average NFL game is 3 hours 12 minutes. On top of that the average NFL game only has 12 minutes of actual play

agree. just bc baseball is going the way of cheap fast food, it isnt a great tool to create fan interest. its just worse rushed bad product.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Yes but NFL games happen during the day.

In the playoffs you really need to make a decision about what you are doing the next day and if you stay up or not. When I was working in Boston I was getting up at 5am. Was baseball with 5 to 6 hours of sleep? Most fans are going to say no.

fans have been watching baseball and going to work the next day for many many years

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

agree. just bc baseball is going the way of cheap fast food, it isnt a great tool to create fan interest. its just worse rushed bad product.

I suggest you read some history on length of games.

Game 7 of the World Series in 1960 is a great example.

So stop this fast food nonsense

 

[CDJ]

Matthew Lugo having himself a nice day

Good day for the AAA pitching prospects too

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

I suggest you read some history on length of games.

Game 7 of the World Series in 1960 is a great example.

So stop this fast food nonsense

I am sick and tired of people talking about length of games as if baseball was always that slow and dragging. They just used to do it without a clock.

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

I am sick and tired of people talking about length of games as if baseball was always that slow and dragging. They just used to do it without a clock.

But obviously they don’t know how to do it without a clock

 

[Mione134]

Attendance was packed today. But I was told by Dan Shags nobody down there is showing up or cares.

 

[McGarnagle]

IMO it's mostly commercial breaks making games last so damn long. Pitchers worked faster in the 70s, but before TV they'd make the third out, run off the field, other team takes positions, a couple warmup throws, and there's 60 or 90 seconds at most between the last pitch of one inning and the first of the next. Now, you make the third out, there's 5 or 6 Liberty Mutual and Geico commercials, come back to some segment with Guerin Austin talking about stuff from field level, then the inning finally starts and it might be a good 5 minutes since the last pitch.

Not saying the more deliberate style of pitching isn't contributing, but it's MLB taking a problem they created and trying to blame the players for it again.

 

[CDJ]

Attendance was packed today. But I was told by Dan Shags nobody down there is showing up or cares.

Crazy that the crowd was sparse on a weekday afternoon exhibition against northeastern!

 

[GatorMike]

 

[smithformeragent]

Agreed.

This could be the equivalent to the NHL coming out of the lockout in terms of qualify of product.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I suggest you read some history on length of games.

Game 7 of the World Series in 1960 is a great example.

So stop this fast food nonsense

fans seem pretty divided over this new rule. I predict it will be squashed as it will hurt their revenue

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

fans seem pretty divided over this new rule. I predict it will be squashed as it will hurt their revenue

Not really. You are just part of the few who don’t like it.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Not really. You are just part of the few who don’t like it.

time will tell but I dont think the charade will make it past a year. less TV time, less concession sales, they'll lose $$$