Red Sox/MLB 2023 Spring Training Begins- Forbes says Boston Red Sox are worth $4.5 billion

[KrejciMVP]

imagine the Yankees beat the Red Sox like that in an important game. integrity of the game is now gone

Those 15 guys that call every show complaining lining up


Spring game

When you look at it - it’s actually brilliant because it will catch everyone’s attention in the game

Im not shocked game 1 its a disaster..umps already making a spectacle of themselves. baseball might be at its lowest point ever, all bc everyone needs the TV off by 9:15 pm

 

[Mione134]

thank goodness.

I want to see the clock though. Once it gets down to 5 they should show it.

 

[KrejciMVP]

what if a batter takes a fastball pitch high and inside or hits a ball of their foot and needs a moment to collect themselves. Is some ump going to penalize him for that. Did anyone think this through before some impulsive rule was made

 

[EverettMike]

ya if ruining baseball and replacing it with whatever this is was the goal.

It.

Is.

Preseason.

It's game 2 of spring training. No result matters. Learning how to play by this new rule does. Relax. This is where you work out the kinks.

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

what if a batter takes a fastball pitch high and inside or hits a ball of their foot and needs a moment to collect themselves. Is some ump going to penalize him for that. Did anyone think this through before some impulsive rule was made

My dude, maybe give it more than 1 game before freaking out. Impulsive? Pitch clocks have been discussed for years and they tested it throughout the minors last year with overwhelming positive results. Injury timeouts are still a thing and I'm sure umps will give leeway when appropriate. I'm begging you go on youtube and watch a game from the 70s. This is far closer to old games than what the modern game had morphed into.

 

[KrejciMVP]

My dude, maybe give it more than 1 game before freaking out. Impulsive? Pitch clocks have been discussed for years and they tested it throughout the minors last year with overwhelming positive results. Injury timeouts are still a thing and I'm sure umps will give leeway when appropriate. I'm begging you go on youtube and watch a game from the 70s. This is far closer to old games than what the modern game had morphed into.

if what we just saw is the new normal way to end games then the integrity is gone. games are decided by a clock with no real purpose

The pitch clock is already starting to destroy baseball

The destruction of baseball is here as LSU beat Kansas State 7-3 in the Round Rock Classic, with the game ending on a pitch clock violation

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[EverettMike]

if what we just saw is the new normal way to end games then the integrity is gone. games are decided by a clock with no real purpose

The pitch clock is already starting to destroy baseball

The destruction of baseball is here as LSU beat Kansas State 7-3 in the Round Rock Classic, with the game ending on a pitch clock violation

en.as.com

Why the f*** would this be "the new normal?!!" It's one f***ing game at the start of spring training!

 

[KrejciMVP]

Why the f*** would this be "the new normal?!!" It's one f***ing game at the start of spring training!

how can you think a game ending like that is ok? so people can save 30 min? Really?

 

[EverettMike]

how can you think a game ending like that is ok? so people can save 30 min? Really?

Simple, because IT'S A MEANINGLESS EXHIBITION.

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

I don't think it's any worse than ending a game in a shootout.

 

[CDJ]

I’m here for the pitch clock just because of who it’s triggering

Sorry the game has to be modernized to keep up with other leagues! Had to be done!

 

[KrejciMVP]

well i hope everyone enjoyed their 30 min they saved

 

[Donnie Shulzhoffer]

The players have themselves to blame with a clock.

Now enforce the existing rule of batter having to keep one foot in the box

 

[KesselBuiltMyHotrod]

30 minutes a game is 81 hrs a season.

 

[Smitty93]

if what we just saw is the new normal way to end games then the integrity is gone. games are decided by a clock with no real purpose

The pitch clock is already starting to destroy baseball

The destruction of baseball is here as LSU beat Kansas State 7-3 in the Round Rock Classic, with the game ending on a pitch clock violation

en.as.com

You realize that players will be a lot more focused when the games actually matter, right?

This is what happens as players figure it out. It causes basically no issues, saves a ton of time, and keeps people engaged during the game.

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

30 minutes a game is 81 hrs a season.

So basically saving 3.5 days of not staring at a screen for nothing.

 

[Johnnyduke]

I think its absurd, 6 seconds left and gets an infraction and the pace always slows in certain situations in baseball with runners on. Is Machado supposed to prepare for the pitch and get the sign from the dugout while having to watch that ridiculous timer (which still has 6 seconds on it)

What is so difficult about getting into the batter's box? And what sign is a team giving Manny Machado? Come on, it's not that complicated. There's a reason baseball games were able to be completed in under 3 hrs before. It doesn't have to be a 162 game slog. There might be an adjustment period but players will adapt and it will be a non issue as time goes on.

 

[KrejciMVP]

Wha so difficult about getting into the batter's box? And what sign is a team giving Manny Machado? Come on, it's not that complicated. There's a reason baseball games were able to be completed in under 3 hrs before. It doesn't have to be a 162 game slog. There might be an adjustment period but players will adapt and it will be a non issue as time goes on.

I enjoy a long extra innings baseball game but if some need the ump to call it at 9:15pm to each their own i guess, i can see the appeal in that watching Blooms RedSox

 

[Johnnyduke]

I highly doubt someone on the fence about watching baseball is going to be ultra intrigued by a pitch clock violation. Would someone suddenly become a basketball fan bc they have a shot clock? If baseball is to survive then more investment has to be made in programs to find baseball players. In Montreal I remember all the baseball fields never getting any money but soccer fields did.

I don't think this is about capturing someone who is not interested in baseball. I think it's about KEEPING the people who do like baseball. I am one. I love baseball but I am not sitting thru 162 four hour games. You tighten the product up and I will absolutely watch more. Nobody is even gonna notice the pitch clock a couple years from now. If kids can in theory see a game end by 9:30, maybe they are then more hooked and interested in playing the sport. On that note, start moving game times up. Say goodbye to the 7 PM start. Bump that up to 6:30.

Cheap gimmicks like a pitch clock are an exercise in futility and makes the league look more micky mouse just like the ghost runner at 2nd

Have you been following minor league data on this? It's absolutely not an exercise in futility. I also don't even see how it's a gimmick. What is so appealing about the pace the game has been played at? Maybe a playoff game but certainly not 162 regular season games. I also love the ghost runner for regular season games. People need to get over the "timeless' nature of baseball.

 

[KrejciMVP]

I don't think this is about capturing someone who is not interested in baseball. I think it's about KEEPING the people who do like baseball. I am one. I love baseball but I am not sitting thru 162 four hour games. You tighten the product up and I will absolutely watch more. Nobody is even gonna notice the pitch clock a couple years from now. If kids can in theory see a game end by 9:30, maybe they are then more hooked and interested in playing the sport. On that note, start moving game times up. Say goodbye to the 7 PM start. Bump that up to 6:30.

Have you been following minor league data on this? It's absolutely not an exercise in futility. I also don't even see how it's a gimmick. What is so appealing about the pace the game has been played at? Maybe a playoff game but certainly not 162 regular season games. I also love the ghost runner for regular season games. People need to get over the "timeless' nature of baseball.

I think if we continue to see games like that today where endings are decided over pitch clock it's terrible for the game and fan recruitment. They should just shut the clock off in the later innings

 

[Johnnyduke]

I think if we continue to see games like that today where endings are decided over pitch clock it's terrible for the game and fan recruitment.

I don't think this is gonna become a problem.

 

[Mr Cartmenez]

People are really freaking about ending a game on a clock issue? How about ending the game on a balk? How about ending the game on a HBP where the batter leaned over the plate?

Can't NBA games be decided on shot clock violations?

I am willing to make a bet that this will be a non issue in a few months. Nobody is going to see the clock and no pitcher/hitter is gonna violate the rules.

Tennis has also implemented a clock several years ago. Some thought it may be an issue, because some players were notoriously slow like pitchers. It has turned out to be a non issue.

 

[KrejciMVP]

People are really freaking about ending a game on a clock issue? How about ending the game on a balk? How about ending the game on a HBP where the batter leaned over the plate?

Can't NBA games be decided on shot clock violations?

I am willing to make a bet that this will be a non issue in a few months. Nobody is going to see the clock and no pitcher/hitter is gonna violate the rules.

Tennis has also implemented a clock several years ago. Some thought it may be an issue, because some players were notoriously slow like pitchers. It has turned out to be a non issue.

its also the micro managing of it, artificially shortened, rushed game, I bet the product is worse. The tickets should be cheaper

 

[Bruinswillwin77]

I think if we continue to see games like that today where endings are decided over pitch clock it's terrible for the game and fan recruitment. They should just shut the clock off in the later innings

Terrible fan recruitment? The game was losing ratings and slowly dying so they made a change.

 

[GatorMike]

I mean, good for a team like San Diego going all out, but holy smokes they'd better win in the next couple of years, because $60 million combined for 41-year old Manny Machado and 41-year old Xander Bogaerts is gonna be UGLY.